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In reply to the discussion: Just an observation about "Stand your Ground" and how utterly regressive it is [View all]safeinOhio
(37,599 posts)16. Starting to look a lot like it.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-09/trayvon-martin-stand-your-ground/55480352/1
The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights announced Friday that it will launch a special investigation into how race affects the enforcement of stand-your-ground laws across the nation. A task force Tuesday convened by Florida's governor shortly after the shooting of Trayvon will hold its first public hearing on the law in that state.
"There is an absolute lack of real data or information about how these stand-your-ground laws have been or are applied," said Michael Yaki, commissioner of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "We need to make sure claims of justifiable homicide are not being granted or denied because of the color of someone's skin."
He also pointed out that, according to data by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, 34% of cases involving a white shooter killing a black person were deemed as a justifiable homicide. Meanwhile, in similar situations, when the shooter was black and the victim was white, the homicide was ruled justifiable only 3.3% of the time.
http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/06/race_plays_complex_role_in_floridas_stand_your_ground_law.html
A Tampa Bay Times analysis of almost 200 cases the first to examine the role of race in Floridas Stand Your Ground or Kill at Will laws found that people who killed a black person walked free 73 percent of the time, while those who killed a white person went free 59 percent of the time.
Questions of race have surrounded Floridas controversial Kill at Will law since George Zimmerman killed unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in February. The law made national headlines because it was part of a system of laws that helped keep Zimmerman out of jail for more than a month.
The study found that regardless of what race the killer was, if the victim was black they were more likely to walk free.
Stand your ground laws shouldnt be called that, Victor Rios, a sociologist at the University of California at Santa Barbara, told Colorlines.com in March. Its essentially giving citizens permission to do what cops have been doing forever to black and brown men: shoot first.
Naw, race has nothing to do with. We should never discuss race when dealing with gun laws.
The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights announced Friday that it will launch a special investigation into how race affects the enforcement of stand-your-ground laws across the nation. A task force Tuesday convened by Florida's governor shortly after the shooting of Trayvon will hold its first public hearing on the law in that state.
"There is an absolute lack of real data or information about how these stand-your-ground laws have been or are applied," said Michael Yaki, commissioner of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "We need to make sure claims of justifiable homicide are not being granted or denied because of the color of someone's skin."
He also pointed out that, according to data by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, 34% of cases involving a white shooter killing a black person were deemed as a justifiable homicide. Meanwhile, in similar situations, when the shooter was black and the victim was white, the homicide was ruled justifiable only 3.3% of the time.
http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/06/race_plays_complex_role_in_floridas_stand_your_ground_law.html
A Tampa Bay Times analysis of almost 200 cases the first to examine the role of race in Floridas Stand Your Ground or Kill at Will laws found that people who killed a black person walked free 73 percent of the time, while those who killed a white person went free 59 percent of the time.
Questions of race have surrounded Floridas controversial Kill at Will law since George Zimmerman killed unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in February. The law made national headlines because it was part of a system of laws that helped keep Zimmerman out of jail for more than a month.
The study found that regardless of what race the killer was, if the victim was black they were more likely to walk free.
Stand your ground laws shouldnt be called that, Victor Rios, a sociologist at the University of California at Santa Barbara, told Colorlines.com in March. Its essentially giving citizens permission to do what cops have been doing forever to black and brown men: shoot first.
Naw, race has nothing to do with. We should never discuss race when dealing with gun laws.
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Just an observation about "Stand your Ground" and how utterly regressive it is [View all]
1-Old-Man
Jun 2012
OP
So voters can vote away people's consitutional rights? They can vote to ban abortion?
hack89
Jun 2012
#24
I did some searching and it's not clear that dueling is outlawed everywhere. Seems it would be.
AlinPA
Jun 2012
#21
I think that anytime someone doesn't immediately protect himself, and takes time
Honeycombe8
Jun 2012
#33