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safeinOhio

(37,599 posts)
16. Starting to look a lot like it.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:54 AM
Jun 2012
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-09/trayvon-martin-stand-your-ground/55480352/1
The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights announced Friday that it will launch a special investigation into how race affects the enforcement of stand-your-ground laws across the nation. A task force Tuesday convened by Florida's governor shortly after the shooting of Trayvon will hold its first public hearing on the law in that state.

"There is an absolute lack of real data or information about how these stand-your-ground laws have been or are applied," said Michael Yaki, commissioner of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. "We need to make sure claims of justifiable homicide are not being granted or denied because of the color of someone's skin."
He also pointed out that, according to data by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, 34% of cases involving a white shooter killing a black person were deemed as a justifiable homicide. Meanwhile, in similar situations, when the shooter was black and the victim was white, the homicide was ruled justifiable only 3.3% of the time.


http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/06/race_plays_complex_role_in_floridas_stand_your_ground_law.html

A Tampa Bay Times analysis of almost 200 cases — the first to examine the role of race in Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” or “Kill at Will” laws — found that people who killed a black person walked free 73 percent of the time, while those who killed a white person went free 59 percent of the time.
Questions of race have surrounded Florida’s controversial “Kill at Will” law since George Zimmerman killed unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in February. The law made national headlines because it was part of a system of laws that helped keep Zimmerman out of jail for more than a month.

The study found that regardless of what race the killer was, if the victim was black they were more likely to walk free.
“Stand your ground laws shouldn’t be called that,” Victor Rios, a sociologist at the University of California at Santa Barbara, told Colorlines.com in March. “It’s essentially giving citizens permission to do what cops have been doing forever to black and brown men: shoot first.”



Naw, race has nothing to do with. We should never discuss race when dealing with gun laws.

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Your post clearly indicates you have *ZERO* knowledge of 'stand your ground'. Edweird Jun 2012 #1
Um no... Kalidurga Jun 2012 #2
Sir, there are some holes in your interpretation Meiko Jun 2012 #3
It's worse than that - it's legalized murder. baldguy Jun 2012 #4
There are some pretty strong messages here for Meiko Jun 2012 #5
One can plan the perfect crime of murder. safeinOhio Jun 2012 #6
You don't need SYG to do that. hack89 Jun 2012 #8
The problem is that safeinOhio Jun 2012 #9
Prosecutors routinely refuse to indict for self defense shootings hack89 Jun 2012 #10
They can't if they don't investigate the killing of safeinOhio Jun 2012 #11
So it is all about race? hack89 Jun 2012 #12
There are those that want to see it turned into a racial issue Meiko Jun 2012 #14
It's very effective for ending any real discussion hack89 Jun 2012 #15
Starting to look a lot like it. safeinOhio Jun 2012 #16
Considering the racists roots of gun control laws in the first place hack89 Jun 2012 #17
Minorities of the large major cities safeinOhio Jun 2012 #19
Unfortunately for them hack89 Jun 2012 #20
I'm sure you and others always safeinOhio Jun 2012 #23
So voters can vote away people's consitutional rights? They can vote to ban abortion? hack89 Jun 2012 #24
Unconstitutional according to who? Scalia? DanTex Jun 2012 #25
I agree with Heller. None of the others. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #26
Most agree Heller, in that the court held safeinOhio Jun 2012 #27
There will be more court cases hack89 Jun 2012 #29
But, you said you agree with Heller. safeinOhio Jun 2012 #31
As a good first step hack89 Jun 2012 #32
If the Scalia court did not attempt to overturn Rove v Wade hack89 Jun 2012 #34
Read the minority response to the courts decision. safeinOhio Jun 2012 #35
You are willfully misreading the laws across the states ProgressiveProfessor Jun 2012 #13
Agreeing to and meeting for a duel is consipiracy to commit a crime. hack89 Jun 2012 #7
I did some searching and it's not clear that dueling is outlawed everywhere. Seems it would be. AlinPA Jun 2012 #21
A simple and non-controversial fix hack89 Jun 2012 #22
You lost me at "each of us threatens the other" slackmaster Jun 2012 #18
I wonder if SYG laws may some day be found safeinOhio Jun 2012 #28
By that standard every law in America is unconstitutional. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #30
I think that anytime someone doesn't immediately protect himself, and takes time Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #33
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