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YoungDemCA

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Wed Sep 14, 2016, 12:09 PM
Sep 2016
Civil liberties and individual rights have different meanings for different groups of people. They also have different priorities depending on social contexts. A review of black history suggests that considerations of civil liberties are always embedded within concepts of equality and social justice. In other words by design or necessity, black people have focused on our collective rights over our individual liberties. This makes sense in a society where we don’t just assume individual black guilt and suspicion. We are all guilty and we are all suspicious (even if we may want to deny this reality). In that context, individual liberties and rights take a back seat to a collective struggle for emancipation and freedom.

Additionally, as a people, we have always known that it is impossible for us to exercise our individual rights within a context of more generalized social, economic, and political oppression. Individual rights are necessarily rooted within a larger social context. Civil liberty concerns take a back seat to putting food on the table and to survival more generally. To guarantee our individual rights as black people, we know that we must address broader social concerns. We don’t have the luxury to ignore this fact. For others not to understand this reality is to foreclose on any opportunities to recruit more black people to the cause of dismantling the surveillance state.



Black people are disproportionately incarcerated in the U.S. Prisoners have no presumption of ‘privacy’; that idea is an abstraction. Blacks are disproportionately subjected to bodily searches and seizures through practices like stop and frisk. Stop and frisk is a neon ‘no tresspassing sign’ for young black people in particular. Unfortunately too many of us have become acclimated to the daily assaults on our persons and the trampling of our individual rights. Can you blame us? If you are a black woman, then you may have the direct experience of the state policing your body in various ways. Many of us resist policies intended to do this but some of us don’t (for a number of good and bad reasons).

The examples that I have cited suggest that for most of us (black people) government surveillance and being perceived as threats are a daily fact of life; not an academic/analytical exercise. Many black people living in public housing, for example, can attest to the fact that they aren’t seen as having any privacy rights when law enforcement routinely kicks down their doors supposedly looking for narcotics.


Black people know that the state and its gatekeepers exert their control over all aspects of our lives. So when we mention that the NSA surveillance regime isn’t new to us, the appropriate response is not to mock, ridicule, belittle and berate. No. The response that conveys solidarity and a desire to partner is to say: “Yes that’s true and while I may have been personally concerned about these issues, I am sorry that more of my peers haven’t been outraged for years. How can we work together to dismantle the surveillance state that harms us all?”

Check your privilege, please.


http://www.usprisonculture.com/blog/2013/06/12/on-some-black-people-and-the-surveillance-state/

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Russian spy and nothing more. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #1
OFCS! Coyotl Sep 2016 #2
I don't care what Putin's usefool idiot has to say. KittyWampus Sep 2016 #3
That applies equally to Snowden, Trump and Assange, I'll bet. randome Sep 2016 #4
Fuck that FUCKING RUSSIAN SPY!!!! MohRokTah Sep 2016 #5
Of course, you have zero evidence of your accusation. Coyotl Sep 2016 #7
Bullshit. MohRokTah Sep 2016 #10
For which you have zero evidence. Coyotl Sep 2016 #11
By turning them out in the wild, he gave them to his benefactors. MohRokTah Sep 2016 #12
And we all know how trustworthy big media conglomerates are. randome Sep 2016 #13
Exactly, people can say whatever comes to mind without any evidence whatsoever. Coyotl Sep 2016 #23
But surely you can see why some believe Snowden was a spy. randome Sep 2016 #24
NO. I can see he didn't want to end up in a prison for life in solitary like Manning. Coyotl Sep 2016 #25
Ew ismnotwasm Sep 2016 #6
I'm old enough to remember when this story "wasn't about *him*"... Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #8
Now it seems some people on DU really loved being spied on by Bush's Junta. Coyotl Sep 2016 #9
Actually, Snowden didn't have a problem with it under Bush. Go figure. eom Tanuki Sep 2016 #17
So why did he leak so many legitimate operations? Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #18
You're confused. He was just fine with secret surveillance until Obama came along. Hmmmm...... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2016 #27
He got better? randome Sep 2016 #33
The o.p. jumped in to the discussion when I mentioned Amy Goodman, but he won't defend... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2016 #43
Fucking coward. Loki Sep 2016 #14
He did the American public a huge favor, and sacrificed a lot. cpwm17 Sep 2016 #30
why was his passport canceled, I will help you, there was a warrant issued for his arrest, Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #42
The authoritarians don't want their illegal activities exposed, hence the warrant cpwm17 Sep 2016 #45
Do you think every time a warrant for arrest is only issued because authoritarians do not want their Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #48
Right. And there's nothing in the constitution that says a defendant gets to dictate the criteria of Tarheel_Dem Sep 2016 #47
If it was such a huge "favor", why do 2/3 of the American people feel he broke the law & should.... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2016 #44
Fire up the drone mwrguy Sep 2016 #15
Read this: YoungDemCA Sep 2016 #16
LOL totally legit: Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #19
Mr. Moss really has Snowden's #. randome Sep 2016 #20
Fact check: 5 key parts of Oliver Stone's 'Snowden' biopic that don't match reality Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #21
Snowden Live = Live Q&A from Moscow = A special event in cinemas nationwide TODAY Coyotl Sep 2016 #22
There is evidence of Snowden committing espionage, he could have his day in court, why can't Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #26
If you say so isn't good enough. Produce your evidence. Coyotl Sep 2016 #28
Guess you don't know enough about Snowden in this situation, perhaps you should not be encouraging Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #29
If you know more than the ACLU, Amnesty & Human Rights Watch, pray tell us what you know. Coyotl Sep 2016 #32
So you are saying there is evidence, good to know. Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #35
No. You need to read it again. Coyotl Sep 2016 #38
Does he have a warrant for his arrest? Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #41
Not one that has been disclosed. Nixon was pardoned without one. Coyotl Sep 2016 #46
Right, so all the counties that post a list of their active warrants are what, doing it wrong? BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #51
I think the indictment speaks for me. Perhaps you can tell us why Snowden is so msanthrope Sep 2016 #34
VIDEO "Pardon Snowden" Campaign Launches, Led by ACLU, Amnesty & Human Rights Watch Coyotl Sep 2016 #31
Few people here give a shit what Amy Goodman of Russia Today is pushing these days. n/t Tarheel_Dem Sep 2016 #36
You are ill informed. Amy Goodman is the host of Democracy Now, nothing to do with RT. Coyotl Sep 2016 #37
Goodman was always a staple on Russian backed tv, which is where I lost respect for her, and... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2016 #40
There's a movie to promote, you know. BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #50
It's a shame he never answered any of my questions... Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #39
#marketing! BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #49
I suspected his motives ever since he went off on a racist rant against Obama in an interview a few catbyte Sep 2016 #52
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