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LeftishBrit

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29. The EU is not one entity and never has been.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 05:47 AM
Sep 2016

Its existence does however help to reduce the risk of wars between countries.

Terrorism and intergroup violence within a country does not equal, or usually cause, civil war between the countries. We are talking basically about small groups of violent young men: religious fundamentalists versus racist nationalists. Neither type of group is an asset to society, or very safe to have around, but it is not as though they are determining the entire course of life within their countries, let alone between them. Even the Troubles in Northern Ireland, which might be described as a form of local civil war, did not spread to other countries (not even to the Republic of Ireland to any appreciable extent). And did not, in their entirety, kill anything as like as many people as are murdered with guns in the USA (let alone all murders in the USA) in any single year , yet you do not describe the USA as being in a state of civil war.

While I think Flatpicker Sep 2016 #1
Agreed. the 2008 crisis is not over yet, and tension is rising all over Albertoo Sep 2016 #2
I'm pretty sure we'll beat them to it. smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #3
Not many Americans went to fight with ISIS Albertoo Sep 2016 #4
No, not with ISIS, our Civil war will be with each other. smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #9
Probably not; but the rise of nationalism is scary LeftishBrit Sep 2016 #5
You are right True Dough Sep 2016 #7
That illustrates perfectly, the illogical nature of the GWOT. ronnie624 Sep 2016 #12
Interesting graph Albertoo Sep 2016 #13
Huh? malaise Sep 2016 #6
Your attempt at diversion hits the wall of the techinical definition Albertoo Sep 2016 #15
OK, the answer to your OP is 'no', then muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #16
The premise of the OP is not mine, but that of European homeland security specialists Albertoo Sep 2016 #23
But the article was not by Keppel; it was an article in The Sun quoting him LeftishBrit Sep 2016 #30
The interview declarations are by Kepel Albertoo Sep 2016 #39
What Kepel said in Die Welt is that terrorists would like to induce hatred of all Muslims muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #37
I love that you contest my OP while quoting a passage that confirms it Albertoo Sep 2016 #38
The point is that Kepel said the only way it could become a civil war is by demonisation of Muslims muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #42
A major report released yesterday in a LW media contradicts your opinion Albertoo Sep 2016 #43
I don't think you can call that 'civil war' LeftishBrit Sep 2016 #18
Treating the EU as one entity, I was referring to a civil war within it Albertoo Sep 2016 #24
The EU is not one entity and never has been. LeftishBrit Sep 2016 #29
And yet, Kepel's use of 'civil war' makes sense Albertoo Sep 2016 #40
I do not think there will be a civil war Dorian Gray Sep 2016 #36
I believe that the chance of this leading to a European internal war is extremely low Victor_c3 Sep 2016 #8
Why let them back if it's obvious flamingdem Sep 2016 #10
Good question. Unsolved legal issues. Albertoo Sep 2016 #14
Europe doesn't have civil wars. They have World Wars. (n/t) Iggo Sep 2016 #11
I assumed that he meant civil wars in individual countries LeftishBrit Sep 2016 #17
to clarify Kepel's contention: a civil war between Muslims and non-Muslims Albertoo Sep 2016 #28
Not going to happen LeftishBrit Sep 2016 #31
Thank goodness, a voice of reason among the hyperbole n/t TubbersUK Sep 2016 #34
I expect France to begin a purge of Muslims soon like they did of the Roma in 2009-10 Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #19
I see that happening too. romanic Sep 2016 #20
Nobody 'censored and ignored' these attacks; they were widely reported LeftishBrit Sep 2016 #33
1492 AngryAmish Sep 2016 #22
Difference is: Andalusia was merely occupied by foreign Muslim troops Albertoo Sep 2016 #27
Unlikely Albertoo Sep 2016 #25
Muslims will not roll over for them like the roma did mwrguy Sep 2016 #32
That's doubly sidestepping the point Albertoo Sep 2016 #45
More like a low level insurgency MowCowWhoHow III Sep 2016 #21
Unless it parallels Lebanon where problems grew with the arrival of Palestinian refugees Albertoo Sep 2016 #26
No n/t TubbersUK Sep 2016 #35
NATO would intervene in a severe terrorist insurgency in Europe Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2016 #41
The far fetched is often what we wish not to contemplate Albertoo Sep 2016 #44
No. Another day, another round of paranoia. closeupready Sep 2016 #46
Only the Paranoid Survive (from the guy who made Intel a success) Albertoo Sep 2016 #47
He sold his soul for a fortune. We know how that story ends. closeupready Sep 2016 #48
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