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Major Nikon

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8. There's lots of history between Algeria and France

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 17, 2016, 03:46 PM

Sep 2016

This history is different even than many other former French colonies.

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France: Three Algerian men arrested after they gang rape a woman near the Eiffel Tower [View all] davidn3600 Sep 2016 OP

Is the fact that they are Algerian relevant somehow? MineralMan Sep 2016 #1

+++++ uppityperson Sep 2016 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author XemaSab Sep 2016 #3

"Is the fact that they are Algerian relevant somehow?" Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #4

Three men, out of half a million Algerians in France. MineralMan Sep 2016 #5

"We don't know, do we?" linuxman Sep 2016 #6

"It's one incident." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #7

"One incident looks like a pattern." Logic. kwassa Sep 2016 #9

The logic of observation. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #10

The logic of prejudice, more likely. kwassa Sep 2016 #11

What makes it prejudice? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #13

"Did their culture teach them they are entitled" makes it prejudice. Maru Kitteh Sep 2016 #65

It wasn't college students sexually assaulting thousands across Europe on New Years. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #66

No, it's male college students from a culture of entitlement sexually assulting thousands across the Maru Kitteh Sep 2016 #67

You but you condemn those while granting a license to others. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #70

That's what you have done, not I. I grant license to none. Maru Kitteh Sep 2016 #71

Where have I fretted about about frat boys being too put upon? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #72

You demonstrate confusion. Maru Kitteh Sep 2016 #81

Unless the fact of certain privileged cultures institutionalizing rape is raised. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #83

This seems like a totally unprovoked personal attack. stone space Sep 2016 #86

What pattern do you think you're seeing from MineralMan Sep 2016 #15

Well, I know you tend to condemn rape culture Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #23

Rape is rape.It is always to be condemned. MineralMan Sep 2016 #24

And yet, some cultures make rape an explicit expression of their mores. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #25

Which ones, please? MineralMan Sep 2016 #26

So your earlier posts speaking out against rape culture were posted with no personal Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #27

Yes, a pattern of men raping women. geek tragedy Sep 2016 #43

It happens more where Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #47

Like college campuses and the US military? nt geek tragedy Sep 2016 #48

Then your demand we ignore these instances seem tainted by ideology. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #50

Um, no, I just prefer to not use the issue as a cudgel against minority groups. nt geek tragedy Sep 2016 #60

Truth shouldn't be seen as a cudgel; it's a force for liberation. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #64

1 incident here, another one there - lots of them adding up patsimp Sep 2016 #61

MineralMan! I applaud your stance! True Dough Sep 2016 #45

It is relevant. Algerians treat women worse than dogs. underahedgerow Sep 2016 #21

There's lots of history between Algeria and France Major Nikon Sep 2016 #8

Relevant insofar as it's part of the story Orrex Sep 2016 #14

Where someone is from is worthy of note in news stories. MineralMan Sep 2016 #16

"What conclusions do you draw from three men from Algeria raping a woman in France?" Orrex Sep 2016 #17

I don't know. MineralMan Sep 2016 #18

Local international stories are frequently posted in GD Orrex Sep 2016 #19

Hmm... MineralMan Sep 2016 #20

What are you arguing, exactly? Orrex Sep 2016 #22

It's not part of the headline. The headline is "Three men charged in alleged gang-rape near Eiffel Chathamization Sep 2016 #35

I didn't claim that it was part of the headline. Orrex Sep 2016 #40

According to advocacy groups, rape is very high in Muslim countries Albertoo Sep 2016 #41

Sheesh is there anything Canada doesn't do right? Egnever Sep 2016 #44

Um, Nickleback? Justin Bieber? Dr. Strange Sep 2016 #52

No one on DU wants to see this kind of statistic. cwydro Sep 2016 #49

As long as ostriches don't get raped, I suppose it's all good? Albertoo Sep 2016 #51

There ya go. cwydro Sep 2016 #54

No, no, no. That would be protected-religion-ophobic. Albertoo Sep 2016 #55

Lol. cwydro Sep 2016 #57

Lone preachers in the desert can work miracles, I hear Albertoo Sep 2016 #58

Zero dark green countries :-( (nt) TacoD Sep 2016 #59

Oh if they were American that'd be mentioned to. I say good. The country origin can be mentioned. yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #30

It's pandering to the Islamophobic bigot crowd. Odin2005 Sep 2016 #32

Thank you. MineralMan Sep 2016 #33

It is relevant = see the make-up of rapists in Sweden Albertoo Sep 2016 #36

Bring back the guillotine! GOLGO 13 Sep 2016 #12

Probably the first ever instance of gang rape in France. guillaumeb Sep 2016 #28

Is the rape of the woman in the OP justified because of this? Marengo Sep 2016 #31

Did you really read that in what I posted? guillaumeb Sep 2016 #34

It's not relevant in any other context. Marengo Sep 2016 #39

It's not what you posted... it's why you posted it. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2016 #53

Par for the course. n/t trotsky Sep 2016 #56

That is the only interpretation. Marr Sep 2016 #63

What is sickening is trying to categorize a population based on the acts of a few. guillaumeb Sep 2016 #87

You have to be joking Albertoo Sep 2016 #37

The world is getting scarier and scarier. Initech Sep 2016 #29

Yup. 2008 crisis, populisms on the rise: smells like 1936 Albertoo Sep 2016 #38

Julius Streicher helped 1936 get going. Let's not have any part closeupready Sep 2016 #42

Let's not be like the unsuspecting "Spaniards" of 711 either Albertoo Sep 2016 #46

So many liberals will shit on the woman here so they can climb on their 'you're a bigot' soapbox. Marr Sep 2016 #62

Superb post, thanks. n/t MicaelS Sep 2016 #68

What a completely unreasonable post! True Dough Sep 2016 #69

My premise most certainly *is* correct, and supported by unbiased crime stats. Marr Sep 2016 #73

Again, I haven't seen anyone here who is True Dough Sep 2016 #74

At what price is inclusion worth it? romanic Sep 2016 #75

At what price is fear, greed, prejudice and cold-heartedness worth it? True Dough Sep 2016 #79

And this fantastic post deserves some space here True Dough Sep 2016 #80

Like I give a damn. romanic Sep 2016 #89

Oh Romanic True Dough Sep 2016 #90

What are the unbiased stats? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #82

It pretty much is Trumpian Chathamization Sep 2016 #84

Good points True Dough Sep 2016 #85

+1000... It's phony-liberalism in the pursuit of ego. True Earthling Sep 2016 #76

Perhaps from some True Dough Sep 2016 #78

"virtue signalling" Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #88

Thank you Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #77