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Hekate

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49. I used to be on my county's Civil Service Commission. If this case had come before us....

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 03:34 AM

Sep 2016

...that woman would have been out on her rear with no further appeal -- and as one of our long-time members used to say, gesturing over his shoulder in the direction of the Courthouse, her next avenue would be to sue and good luck with that.

I live in California and not in Florida, but really, the principle is the same for all public employment: if the employee has deep moral objections to portions of their job description, they really need to find another job, and if an opening is available within another part of the organization, by all means apply for it.

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Lawsuit: Christian Woman Fired For Refusing to Issue Same-Sex Marriage Certificates [View all] DonViejo Sep 2016 OP

she believes homosex is a sin. OK. but WTF does she have against marrying them. CurtEastPoint Sep 2016 #1

Lost on homophobes is the fact that marriage has nothing to do with sex unblock Sep 2016 #3

Meh...do your job, and collect a paycheck...or not. stone space Sep 2016 #2

Exactly. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2016 #37

Bigotry inspired by religion is still bigotry. stopbush Sep 2016 #4

So is bigotry GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #18

Faith = belief in make believe stopbush Sep 2016 #19

Try winning elections with that message GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #20

I respect your right to believe what you will. stopbush Sep 2016 #21

Got it GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #23

Great response. phylny Sep 2016 #24

I look forward to a future where we as a species don't rely on make believe stopbush Sep 2016 #26

That's fine GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #28

right, coexist. GB! Divine Discontent Sep 2016 #42

More accurately, faith is simply a trust in that of which we do not have full knowledge. LanternWaste Sep 2016 #62

Nah. False equivalency...and a stretch, to boot. stopbush Sep 2016 #64

What is "Atheistism"? Quantess Sep 2016 #27

Sorry about the spelling error GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #30

Okay, I understand now. Quantess Sep 2016 #43

Even in Europe? GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #44

I'm a Swedish American. Quantess Sep 2016 #48

Which is the bigger issue? Orrex Sep 2016 #32

I am not offended in the least GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #34

That some Christian gay couples who have had their marriage licenses denied by her... stone space Sep 2016 #39

do your damned job, or find another one that doesn't conflict with your beliefs. end niyad Sep 2016 #5

Yep awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #13

Nothing in the world is so excellent... Orrex Sep 2016 #29

Amen - bigotry and religious beliefs are not physical disabilities that need to be accomodated rurallib Sep 2016 #14

Isn't that special? Wounded Bear Sep 2016 #6

there are plenty of jobs bigots can do Skittles Sep 2016 #7

Jeanine, roscoeroscoe Sep 2016 #10

The only way to get through to these people is to hit them where it hurts the most. madinmaryland Sep 2016 #8

I wonder how many licenses she issued Mariana Sep 2016 #9

Or to a Christian and a non Christian in violation of... A HERETIC I AM Sep 2016 #35

I'm also curious if she does any work on Sunday A HERETIC I AM Sep 2016 #36

Calling Mike Huckabee, another one of your religous nuts needs help to discriminate. yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2016 #11

Fire up the fundy donation machine central scrutinizer Sep 2016 #12

She doesn't have to fuck them, she only has to give them a piece of paper Major Nikon Sep 2016 #15

How do you know she drools? jberryhill Sep 2016 #16

I'm surprised she doesn't forget to breathe Major Nikon Sep 2016 #17

... Laffy Kat Sep 2016 #33

How does filling out a form equate with agreeing with what you're writing? Vinca Sep 2016 #22

"There are six other people who can do my job for me. I don't see why I have to do anything." randome Sep 2016 #25

If I'm on the FEC & my beliefs consider it a sin to vote for Republicans... Orrex Sep 2016 #31

So she believes she is being discriminated against because she wants to discriminate? Thor_MN Sep 2016 #38

Apparently. DFW Sep 2016 #40

Didn't Jesus say something about Retrograde Sep 2016 #41

The act of being not willing to serve same sex couples is an act of public discrinination that the TeamPooka Sep 2016 #45

Not again... sakabatou Sep 2016 #46

Alternate headline: Person fired for not doing their job. nt killbotfactory Sep 2016 #47

I used to be on my county's Civil Service Commission. If this case had come before us.... Hekate Sep 2016 #49

Calling her a "Christian woman" is an insult to all Christians who are not homophobic bigots. Odin2005 Sep 2016 #50

If she refuses to do her job because of her claimed Christianity, Orrex Sep 2016 #55

Then refer to her denomination, or use a modifier like "conservative Christian". Odin2005 Sep 2016 #56

That would be a pointless (and inconsistent) exercise in compartmentalization Orrex Sep 2016 #57

Muslims are not the vast majority of the US population. Odin2005 Sep 2016 #58

So? Orrex Sep 2016 #59

When the majority of the population is Christian... Odin2005 Sep 2016 #60

That's silly. Orrex Sep 2016 #61

So, she feels her inane beliefs should be pushed onto others. She should not be RKP5637 Sep 2016 #51

Do your job "christain" & keep your rancid beliefs to yourself civil servant. GOLGO 13 Sep 2016 #52

Bullshit. How about this: don't get a job that gets in the way of your beliefs! Initech Sep 2016 #53

If this lady will not do her job, then the firing was appropriate Gothmog Sep 2016 #54

Why is the woman's religion relevant to the news story? lapislzi Sep 2016 #63