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I appreciate the good quality info links you give in the o.p. and the sub-post. I haven't started part 6 yet, I need a rest to shake it off.
Octa brought up Manafort and Stone a few months ago as wise guys, and I asked him if they weren't actually right wing intel. I didn't hear back, and haven't seen him around here in a while. But I didn't ask the question in a snotty way, and have never had a fundamental disagreement with him on the issues.
There was this guy named Charles Nicoletti, who was a big organized crime hit-man in Chicago, from way back in Capone Nitti Deluca-Ricca times, all the way through the '70's. He said that he was leaving the mob because intel was taking it over, and got hit while the House Assassinations Committee was looking to subpoena him, right after Roselli and Giancana were hit. (He made the mob-intel statement according to a UPI dispatch datelined Chicago, reported in the Miami Herald 3/30/77. It's cited in the Warren Hinckle book Deadly Secrets, pp. 403, 440, hardbound edition.)
Manafort and Stone look like they come from the right wing intel end of things, they're not from any mob gene pool though they may have plentiful mob connections. Same thing for drump, though he appears to plunk down on neo-nazi connections instead of being hooked directly into rightwing intel, like Manafort and Stone are. tRump's not from any wise-guy gene pool, he just rubs elbows and has business dealings with a host of mobbed up Irish Italian Jewish and Greek individuals. He's a fake aristocrat WASP, who has the same business practices and org structure the mob has, and he relies on mob people for some work. But he kissed up to Salerno and Castellano when he rubbed elbows with them, he didn't sit at the table with them and discuss "la cosa nostra".
One reporter who covered his interactions with the mob (D.C. Johnston, I believe) said that little Donnie never put himself in a situation where he was not absolutely sure about his own personal physical safety, though there have definitely been right wing intel people who would openly talk face to face, person to person, with organized crime figures. tRump's too stupid to be intel, he's not a big nazi intellectual leader either, despite his dad's longstanding Klan affiliation. T-Rump just is a high level backer of theirs, and is willing to take all of their adulation, because he regards it as being his due. The rightwing DailyMail said he's another royal family cousin, distantly connected, way way down the line of succession, through his dad's German and his mother's Scottish bloodlines. Sounds about right. (No slur intended to the current Brit monarchy, we all have cousins we don't really get along with. And my mention of the "T-Rump royal family" line in the Daily Mail isn't intended to convey a LaRouchie/Bircher affiliation on my part.)
I'd like to point out that the current increased violence and death rate in Chicago is without a doubt the results of a war by street level proxy between organized crime elements in Chicago. The reverberations of that war expand through Chicago held territory in Cleveland and to disputed territory like Pittsburgh. So after violent crime going down ever since we tossed out the trash in '92, going down through most of the Obama Admin, a few US cities are seeing a sudden sharp uptick as we approach the '16 elections.
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