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In reply to the discussion: Clinton Losing Millennial Support Nationally and in Key States [View all]Democrats_win
(6,541 posts)Any support of Libertarianism shows the poor state of our education system. Sadly students do not read the great philosophers like Hobbs or Locke. Wikipedia settles the basic argument over government
"Hobbes postulates what life would be like without government, a condition which he calls the state of nature. In that state, each person would have a right, or license, to everything in the world. This, Hobbes argues, would lead to a "war of all against all" (bellum omnium contra omnes). The description contains what has been called one of the best known passages in English philosophy, which describes the natural state humankind would be in, were it not for political community:
In such condition, there is no place for industry; because the fruit thereof is uncertain: and consequently no culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments of moving, and removing, such things as require much force; no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hobbes
The basic tenants of Libertarianism were proven wrong centuries ago. Why are we still having this argument? Because the Libertarians and so-called Conservatives have taken thinking out of our education system in favor of a more "utilitarian" training which is obsolete even before you graduate.