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virginia mountainman

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51. Mr Kleck's study on Defensive gun uses..

Tue Sep 20, 2016, 04:36 PM

Sep 2016

Was discarded because by many, because of sample size...

His sample size was 5,000, so why is a even smaller sample being applauded, and held up by the same people that panned the Kleck study??

http://www.armedwithreason.com/npr-segment-the-myth-of-defensive-gun-use/

DEFILIPPIS: Well, this number comes from a study in 1992 conducted by professors at Florida State University, Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz. What happened was that these researchers called a random sub-sample of 5,000 Americans. 66 of them reported that they had used a gun in self-defense, so that’s a little bit more than 1 percent. And then from that number, the researchers simply scale it up to the entire American population to get around 2.5 million defensive gun uses a year.

BOB: Now it can be legitimate to take a sample of data and project it based on larger populations, but there are statistical protocols for doing that. Was the sample size too small?

BTW, many academics have taken on Mr Kleck...and Failed...

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that is still frightening, about 10 million really heavily armed gun nuts Amishman Sep 2016 #9

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Good perspective UTUSN Sep 2016 #15

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The preceding message brought to you by the gun manufacturers' lobby Orrex Sep 2016 #28

Scary that someone can see "low gun ownership" as a problem. nt DLevine Sep 2016 #30

OK, just to make sure people understand duncang Sep 2016 #19

You said it, not me. hunter Sep 2016 #22

Just wondering do you know me? duncang Sep 2016 #24

I've little doubt many, many firearm owners would allege precisely the same thing LanternWaste Sep 2016 #32

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Well this should actually make some here happy B2G Sep 2016 #35

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Mr Kleck's study on Defensive gun uses.. virginia mountainman Sep 2016 #51

If, by failed, you mean succeeded, then yes maxsolomon Sep 2016 #54

Ha - I'll just take your word that its probably flawed. nt jmg257 Sep 2016 #57

Its apparent you don't care about the Constitution, because maxsolomon Sep 2016 #65

That, or a HUGE kick-ass standing army! My, how the peoples' opinion changes! jmg257 Sep 2016 #67

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