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Whiskeytide

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40. There are people who "support" Trump...

Thu Sep 22, 2016, 09:29 AM

Sep 2016

... but please don't fail to distinguish them from the traditional republicans out there. His active supporters are unreachable. But most of the republicans I know are not completely irrational, and their support for him is luke warm at best.

But the topic at hand was looting, not Trumperism, and I wasn't really linking the two. You're correct that anyone who sees looting and uses it as an excuse to vote for Trump is an asshole, and always was.

My republican friends and acquaintances, on the other hand, can understand the issues of BLM, and I can have a duscussion about it with them and find a surprising amount of common ground. But when the looting starts, the issue discussion shuts down. That's all I was saying. I resent the looting - not because I don't understand where it comes from or why it is predictable - but because it BECOMES the issue for many people, and the protest falls by the wayside.

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What should be the penalty for "looting"? [View all] kentuck Sep 2016 OP

"Should it be a crime?" NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #1

a new tv might solve all my social problems :-) nt msongs Sep 2016 #2

I think if it jamzrockz Sep 2016 #3

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2016 #4

It's a crime get the red out Sep 2016 #5

Looting is stealing vlyons Sep 2016 #6

It would help if we treated the people who are looting as citizens in the first place killbotfactory Sep 2016 #7

We can agree on that. kentuck Sep 2016 #8

If they are looting, they do very much need to be policed. whatthehey Sep 2016 #38

If it was food and basic life necessities JonathanRackham Sep 2016 #9

I'm not sure... TreasonousBastard Sep 2016 #10

Wellllll...it depends on what your definition of "looting" is. Do you mean some poor jtuck004 Sep 2016 #11

Even with all the social ills and injustice... kentuck Sep 2016 #12

We reward and laud criminals if their theft is large enough. Make 'em black and put 'em in jtuck004 Sep 2016 #24

"The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine." kentuck Sep 2016 #28

"we have a moral obligation to try and live in peace." Mostly the folks we are talking about jtuck004 Sep 2016 #37

We can live in peace or we can settle it in the streets? kentuck Sep 2016 #39

exactly . . . theft will solve the "lack of justice, freedom and respect" issues DrDan Sep 2016 #15

Never said it was a solution. Just predictable. And hardly the biggest theft or destruction of jtuck004 Sep 2016 #23

so the looting and destruction in Charlotte is "too small" to be concerned about DrDan Sep 2016 #27

I like your take on this, and agree with it... Whiskeytide Sep 2016 #32

"...a hinderance to shifting societal views" < There are tens of millions of jtuck004 Sep 2016 #34

There are people who "support" Trump... Whiskeytide Sep 2016 #40

He has tens upon tens of millions of active supporters, none of whom are the least bit jtuck004 Sep 2016 #45

It should be treated like any other theft liberal N proud Sep 2016 #13

it's theft isn't it? pretty simple it seems to me DrDan Sep 2016 #14

It depends on circumstances. Exilednight Sep 2016 #16

That wasn't looting - that was scavenging. Yo_Mama Sep 2016 #20

tomato tamato. Exilednight Sep 2016 #41

It needs to be punished very severely, more so than "normal" robberies. Nye Bevan Sep 2016 #17

If unwarranted violence by the police against the public in your city causes riots in the streets baldguy Sep 2016 #18

Except the rioters didn't wait to see if it was warranted mythology Sep 2016 #49

It's a crime. "Should be" does not come into it. Yo_Mama Sep 2016 #19

Looting dishonors protest randr Sep 2016 #21

Yes It Should Be A Crime RobinA Sep 2016 #22

If looting is "ok" then should it be against the law to use force, up to deadly force, to keep your oneshooter Sep 2016 #25

Paid administrative leave? d_b Sep 2016 #26

Well, there's that whole "innocent 'til proven guilty" thing. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2016 #30

Of course we could not hear the conversation on the ground in the Tulsa shooting. kentuck Sep 2016 #31

I'd bet SOME cops were yelling for him to get on the ground, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2016 #33

Stop the riots and you stop the looting metroins Sep 2016 #29

It depends. LWolf Sep 2016 #35

Rioting is the language of the unheard. Brickbat Sep 2016 #36

So what language is looting ? Bonx Sep 2016 #47

Same as the penalty faced by cops for killing these people. onecaliberal Sep 2016 #42

Taking shit that's not yours is a crime, as is breaking stuff that's not yours. jmg257 Sep 2016 #43

Looting sarisataka Sep 2016 #44

Jail time and fines after a trial and judgment of guilt. MineralMan Sep 2016 #46

the penalty should not be jail.......... mrmpa Sep 2016 #48