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yellowcanine

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56. I agree that the most parsimonious explanation is that the gun was kicked away.

Fri Sep 23, 2016, 03:58 PM

Sep 2016

Some here seem to think it is easy to get away with throwing down a gun. Only in the movies.
There would be the problem of no prints or DNA on the gun - or the wrong prints or DNA on the gun. And then there is the question of having a gun available for a throw down. Again, only in the movies.

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Wife of NC Charlotte man shot releases video, THERE WAS NO FUCKIN GUN IN THE BEGINNING !!! [View all] uponit7771 Sep 2016 OP

Now can we get an arrest and indictment.... asiliveandbreathe Sep 2016 #1

Amen !!! there was no gun ... MSNBC showed a pic of a gun that wasn't in the video uponit7771 Sep 2016 #9

The gun wasn't there Horse with no Name Sep 2016 #2

YES you're right!!! OMFG... the guy has 7 fuckin kids man... omfg uponit7771 Sep 2016 #4

not to mention the fact that they were told he had a TBI Horse with no Name Sep 2016 #7

PM'd uponit7771 Sep 2016 #10

7 kids? Sheesh. Why? I feel for them but fuck all. JanMichael Sep 2016 #89

TBI post kids, I have 3 ... 3 - 19... same thing uponit7771 Sep 2016 #96

3 is not 7. 7 is a shit ton of kids. 3 is tough but not 7 tough. JanMichael Sep 2016 #98

You're right he deserves to die what the fuck is your point elehhhhna Sep 2016 #99

i did not say that. nt JanMichael Sep 2016 #102

?... there's nothing wrong with 7 kids... they've been married for 20 years... maybe they don't like uponit7771 Sep 2016 #100

i was wondering this morning if the family had some sort of copy eleny Sep 2016 #3

This is not the video the police are refusing to release. dgibby Sep 2016 #23

yeah, i realized that when i just saw the tv coverage eleny Sep 2016 #28

Actually the new law won't apply metalbot Sep 2016 #72

Could be. Looked like 2 items on the ground but they were both BootinUp Sep 2016 #5

Correct, MSNBC just showed the pics and the video... omfg... they murdered him uponit7771 Sep 2016 #6

link to video fifthoffive Sep 2016 #8

One question: What was she yelling at Kieth not to do? tonyt53 Sep 2016 #11

Don't fight with them? gwheezie Sep 2016 #14

I have no idea, but in my opinion, it's a very big question. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #18

She told him to come out of the car to show he was unarmed. nt tblue37 Sep 2016 #62

She was yelling at him "Keith"!...then telling the cops not to do it.....per the TV. n/t Horse with no Name Sep 2016 #32

^^ Exactly. That's what I heard too. lamp_shade Sep 2016 #35

Not what I heard and I listened to it several times because it caught my attention. yellowcanine Sep 2016 #59

She was talking to both at the same time...notice the change of tone. She kept her tone even with Horse with no Name Sep 2016 #61

I disagree. You are reading a lot into it. She was not keeping an "even tone" with Keith. yellowcanine Sep 2016 #64

She was yelling the *cops* not to shoot Keith. yodermon Sep 2016 #51

She was having simultaneous conversations with the cops and her husband. ecstatic Sep 2016 #77

This must be a long held institutional practice. procon Sep 2016 #12

+1, this the second time I've seen a LEO place a throw down... wtf. Yes, it sounds common seeing the uponit7771 Sep 2016 #13

Oh HELL that was brazen. Daemonaquila Sep 2016 #15

Yeap, there was a pair of gloves that was picked up but there was two objects on the ground uponit7771 Sep 2016 #16

Yep. Daemonaquila Sep 2016 #26

Would a gun make an audible sound upon hitting the pavement? jberryhill Sep 2016 #54

At 6'5" 245 and black ... it sickens me to say, but your fears are well founded etherealtruth Sep 2016 #17

Me too... I'm always trying to find a way to be safe... seems nothing I can do or convince myself of uponit7771 Sep 2016 #22

Ohshitohshitohshitohshit... Iggo Sep 2016 #19

It calls into question all police shootings with the gun throw down MattP Sep 2016 #20

There appears to be two objects thrown down, one of the a pair of gloves... the other looks like a uponit7771 Sep 2016 #24

Does the gun make a sound when it hits the pavement? jberryhill Sep 2016 #55

Can't hear it over the wife's distress, one poster said whatever hid the ground bounced uponit7771 Sep 2016 #57

Wow, why not back off & talk to the wife? gwheezie Sep 2016 #21

AMEN !!! uponit7771 Sep 2016 #25

My husband just made me watch the video JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #78

These motherfuckers got caught redhanded Matrosov Sep 2016 #27

+1, At the LEAST ... the LEAST their handling of evidence is sloppy..their adding item to the scene uponit7771 Sep 2016 #29

and they can sleep at night eleny Sep 2016 #30

I am waiting tazkcmo Sep 2016 #31

Amen, me too... no one expects any of these LEO's to be perfect... this is aweful. Just come out uponit7771 Sep 2016 #36

Just watched that ismnotwasm Sep 2016 #33

Gloves the cops use..and object near rear of white truck jmg257 Sep 2016 #34

That's what I'm seeing too... there were a pair of gloves and then another object post him being on uponit7771 Sep 2016 #37

Another thing gwheezie Sep 2016 #38

I have that question too, they've yet to answer what made them feel Scott was the target uponit7771 Sep 2016 #39

Remember they planted one when cops killed that other man named Scott last year n/t malaise Sep 2016 #40

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2016 #41

Black surgical gloves and they moved the gun away from him as is normal Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #42

Nope, MSNBC shows the contrasting pictures just now... the video there is no gun ... in the picture uponit7771 Sep 2016 #44

And the time difference? Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #45

Irrelevant to the point the CPD isn't being transparent and why in the hell would CPD take gloves of uponit7771 Sep 2016 #47

You scoot it away because it's the least amount of handling Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #49

Ok... I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt when the citizens of he city aren't and the... uponit7771 Sep 2016 #50

I agree that the most parsimonious explanation is that the gun was kicked away. yellowcanine Sep 2016 #56

You're kidding right? there are some here who act like this wasn't done in broad day light in anothe uponit7771 Sep 2016 #58

No not kidding. There is no video of a "Carolina LEO planting a throw down." yellowcanine Sep 2016 #63

This is false on its face, Walter Scott video shows a cop planting a throw down uponit7771 Sep 2016 #65

I am talking about this video - what happened here. You cannot say that. yellowcanine Sep 2016 #67

I'm referring to your statement here uponit7771 Sep 2016 #68

Well if there is video they did not "get away with it." Proves my point. yellowcanine Sep 2016 #70

You intimated it wouldn't be easy to get away with it, I disagree seeing how ... uponit7771 Sep 2016 #73

Well that guy didn't get away with it... citood Sep 2016 #82

Because there was a VERY RARE instance of video, again though... seeing every 3 yr old and their uponit7771 Sep 2016 #83

I predict this video will accelerate the release of the body cam footage citood Sep 2016 #60

Nah, the CPD and the R gov are assholes... they're making the situation worse uponit7771 Sep 2016 #66

"Why would they scoot a gun away from someone already incapacitated vs pic it up." yellowcanine Sep 2016 #69

I was just hearing an official on TV so needlessly offensive, Hortensis Sep 2016 #43

I think after listening to this video over and over Horse with no Name Sep 2016 #46

+1, and none of the LEOs broke away to try and interact with her uponit7771 Sep 2016 #48

Yeah, they should scare you Warpy Sep 2016 #52

+1, she was never interacted with... they never thought to bring in the wife uponit7771 Sep 2016 #53

He may have been armed. LeftInTX Sep 2016 #71

NC is an open carry state, whether he was armed or not still doesn't answer the question of uponit7771 Sep 2016 #74

Open carry doesn't apply for felony gun convictions FBaggins Sep 2016 #84

so they knew he was a felon? tia uponit7771 Sep 2016 #87

I read he did 3 years or so in Texas. B2G Sep 2016 #90

Yes, I don't think he would be legally able to own guns. LisaL Sep 2016 #93

The answer to the rhetorical question is no, they didn't know he was a felon... they didn't run any uponit7771 Sep 2016 #94

Do we know that or is it just an assumption? FBaggins Sep 2016 #101

Stop making sense and interupting the DU court with facts. B2G Sep 2016 #103

Did they run his license? LisaL Sep 2016 #91

Nope, this was mistaken identity ... they didn't know who he was at all uponit7771 Sep 2016 #95

How do you know they didn't run his plates? B2G Sep 2016 #104

Really!?!?? The person who owns the car always is driving it!? If they knew who they were looking uponit7771 Sep 2016 #105

How can one tell who the occupant of a car is by running their license plates? etherealtruth Sep 2016 #97

Or he may not have been BronxBoy Sep 2016 #75

TOTALLY irrelevant philosslayer Sep 2016 #76

Thank you JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #81

Whether he was armed or not is totally irrelevant? FBaggins Sep 2016 #85

No.... philosslayer Sep 2016 #86

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2016 #88

He shot at that guy 10 times. LisaL Sep 2016 #92

You hush with your "facts" XemaSab Sep 2016 #106

Looks like... Mike Nelson Sep 2016 #79

1:41 the officer in the red drops something uponit7771 Sep 2016 #80