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Egnever

(21,506 posts)
42. You keep saying things as if they are fact but they aren't.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 08:09 PM
Sep 2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/06/09/this-company-just-solved-the-biggest-policy-problem-for-driverless-cars/

"a British insurance company has begun offering a special policy designed for autonomous and partly automated vehicles. In theory, you could use this on your Google driverless car or your Tesla that's equipped with autopilot."


You may not "trust it" but that has no bearing on reality. Google is up to almost two million miles driven including in washington where it rains all the time and has had one 2mph accident where the autonomous vehicle was at fault. Meanwhile those same vehicles have been hit multiple times by human drivers. The safety issue is clearly not the autonomous vehicle it is the humans.

90% of all accidents are caused by human error.

The insurance industry as a whole is looking askew at driverless cars because they realize they are going to be safer and already are safer.

“There will be crashes. There will be people injured and killed in these vehicles,” he said. “We’re going to have to hang in there and be ready for these kinds of things.”

But few would quibble with a 90 percent reduction in accidents. For every American killed in an accident, another eight are hospitalized, accordion to the McKinsey report, and another 100 are treated and released from emergency rooms:


http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2016/02/19/autonomous-vehicles-could-drive-car-insurance-companies-out-of-business/3/#5c9fc6df29bf

You think they will end up over a cliff but that is nothing more than your perception. The insurance companies themselves foresee a 90% reduction in accident rates despite you trying to come up with wild scenarios where they will be the most dangerous thing on the road.

A study last year found driverless cars are more likely than human-operated vehicles to be in accidents, but the accidents documented in the study were all the fault of the human drivers of other cars. None of the driverless cars caused an accident. Often, the driverless cars were struck because they were adhering to traffic laws, Burns said, like making sure an intersection is clear before proceeding when a light turns green, only to get rear-ended.

Those human-error accidents should also disappear as the system goes driverless.


No one has died in an autonomous vehicle. Teslas are not autonomous it is driver assist and tesla states in very clear terms that it is not meant to be autonomous.

Tesla has never claimed Autopilot is a driverless system. In fact, the firm has provided warnings each time owners activate the system. A Tesla spokesperson replied, as quoted by Electrek. “Since the release of Autopilot, we’ve continuously educated customers on the use of the features, reminding them that they’re responsible to keep their hands on the wheel and remain alert and present when using Autopilot. Drivers must be prepared to take control at all times.”


Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/tesla-mobileye-autopilot-component-conflict/#ixzz4L7uIltQ9
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Nice passive-aggressive post. Odin2005 Sep 2016 #1
Thank you! FrodosPet Sep 2016 #4
And the benefits are? lame54 Sep 2016 #2
Yeah... That kind of does make you a technophobic Luddite. eom VulgarPoet Sep 2016 #3
huh? WestCoastLib Sep 2016 #5
And there are people upset by that very fact FrodosPet Sep 2016 #6
Not seeing it, sorry. WestCoastLib Sep 2016 #9
No, you really don't. whatthehey Sep 2016 #10
Getting old really sucks FrodosPet Sep 2016 #18
All of those things are existing road hazards Codeine Sep 2016 #33
You are correct. No more strawmen posts. Not sure if I will even leave uncommented news stories FrodosPet Sep 2016 #40
Everyone likes and dislikes regulation The2ndWheel Sep 2016 #12
And the advancement of science and technology has even higher standards than you LanternWaste Sep 2016 #15
Another bullshit FUD strawman whatthehey Sep 2016 #7
I have NOTHING against deploying the tech when ready FrodosPet Sep 2016 #25
Oh, look. Another luddite. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2016 #8
Getting old should be illegal FrodosPet Sep 2016 #19
No, but it should impart humility. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2016 #27
I for one, welcome our new robotic overlords. Hugin Sep 2016 #11
With any luck at all they'll be equipped with Galaxy 7 style batteries. Hugin Sep 2016 #17
Robots shouldn't have tweaker teeth. Codeine Sep 2016 #34
Word on the street is this is the clocker with the apple jack. Hugin Sep 2016 #37
People die every day from human error Egnever Sep 2016 #13
Apples and Oranges. Good for dessert, bad for comparisons FrodosPet Sep 2016 #21
You must hate the space program yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #26
And -I- am supposed to be the "strawman guy" in this thread? FrodosPet Sep 2016 #28
I admit it was strawman but it was the only thing at the time I could equate to it yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #29
The benefits and potential are already being realized Major Nikon Sep 2016 #49
No more and no less than the transformation to the combustion engine from the horse and buggy LanternWaste Sep 2016 #14
What you have to do is accept that you don't matter The2ndWheel Sep 2016 #16
I am trying, but that is very difficult FrodosPet Sep 2016 #22
Wow. No posts about teh impossible, can't drive in the snow Glassunion Sep 2016 #20
I guess all that does not matter FrodosPet Sep 2016 #23
You raise some excellent points Glassunion Sep 2016 #24
And how about the fucking Grapevine in SoCal. longship Sep 2016 #30
What about Grapevine? Glassunion Sep 2016 #31
How many of those miles experience rain or snow? longship Sep 2016 #32
They don't only get tested in CA and NV when the weather is good. Glassunion Sep 2016 #35
My safety standards are simple. longship Sep 2016 #36
How is insurance a game stopper? Egnever Sep 2016 #39
Right now, no insurance company is going to insure one for a reasonable price. longship Sep 2016 #41
You keep saying things as if they are fact but they aren't. Egnever Sep 2016 #42
No true Scotsman! longship Sep 2016 #43
At this point I think it is pretty clear you are not interested in facts Egnever Sep 2016 #44
No! You are wrong. I am interested in safety longship Sep 2016 #45
And yet in every accident they have been in except one 2mph fender bender. Egnever Sep 2016 #46
But, I thought that they were autonomous!! longship Sep 2016 #48
A lot more now Egnever Sep 2016 #38
A good start. longship Sep 2016 #47
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