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In reply to the discussion: Wife of NC Charlotte man shot releases video, THERE WAS NO FUCKIN GUN IN THE BEGINNING !!! [View all]FBaggins
(28,774 posts)Plates are run very rapidly and automatically in many jurisdictions these days.
Either way - it's irrelevant to this part of the conversation, which has two parts:
1 - Some here seem to think that because NC is an "open carry" state... that having a gun in your hand while police are yelling at you to drop it (if he indeed had a gun) is not something that could get you shot, because he had a right (under that twisted logic) to hold a gun openly. The logic of that position is entirely lacking, but even were it rational... he wouldn't have such a right because open carry doesn't apply to him. Whether the police would know that or not is irrelevant because the conversation left the realm of the rational as soon you claimed that open carry impacts the determination to shoot someone who won't drop a gun when police order him to do so.
2 - His felony convictions might or might not be relevant to how the police treated him if they knew about them, but they are definitely relevant to this conversation. There are hundreds of police-involved shootings each year. Some number are appropriate and some are not. We're trying to figure out whether this shooting is yet another example of wrongful police behavior or not. We want to know whether he placed police in a position to fear for their own safety or not. The video isn't conclusive.
Would these specific police officers kill an unarmed man and then plant a gun? I don't know. Would this specific suspect place otherwise-righteous police in a position where they had to shoot him? Again, we don't know. The past history of both is relevant to that determination.
Is it possible that a police officer guilty of prior violence against an innocent defendant could be falsely accused of violence? Sure. Is it possible for someone with a violent criminal past to be falsely accused of it in the present? Again... absolutely.
BUT... when I read that he has a decades-long history of assaults involving deadly weapons (not just a single case that might be explainable) and evading police... plus multiple cases where he had (and used) a firearm that he was not permitted to own...I find it easier to believe that he had one in this case.