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48. the wife appeared to be having a "converstion" with the police and Keith simultaneously

Reply to madokie (Reply #15)

Sat Sep 24, 2016, 12:19 PM

Sep 2016

... alternating between the police and Keith ... I interpret "don't do it" as an admonition to the police

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I think video shows the gun was not planted [View all] Egnever Sep 2016 OP

Thanks...I see/saw the same thing (though did not see red guy foot the gun jmg257 Sep 2016 #1

I really think it is very clear once you see it Egnever Sep 2016 #2

A freeper said gun has DNA blood and prints of victim Cicada Sep 2016 #3

Since the victim and the weapon were in CPD possession that's not definative proof unless the CPD uponit7771 Sep 2016 #40

Esxcellent post. B2G Sep 2016 #4

what about the video heaven05 Sep 2016 #5

that is the video by the wife Egnever Sep 2016 #6

That's the video he's referring to. B2G Sep 2016 #7

I thought it was a glove too Egnever Sep 2016 #25

Look at the size of the 'gun' in relation to his feet. nt B2G Sep 2016 #28

Yea it is odd looking to be sure Egnever Sep 2016 #30

Looks like a "glock-like" plastic-framed gun to me...definitely from the bottom, jmg257 Sep 2016 #31

Yup that is what it looks like to me as well Egnever Sep 2016 #32

Yep - many mags have extensions, so could just be the shadow from the extension..small matter though jmg257 Sep 2016 #33

At this point I am somewhat bothered that the police could not see this Egnever Sep 2016 #36

And maybe they are manufacturing evidence as required. kristopher Sep 2016 #81

The pistol I saw on TV looked like a metal short barrel 1911 .45 cal. doc03 Sep 2016 #78

Thanks...I see that pic in another thread...a Colt, maybe a Mustang .380. Nt jmg257 Sep 2016 #80

from TRAYVON heaven05 Sep 2016 #45

I am not trying to explain anything away Egnever Sep 2016 #51

You are engaging in the standard practice of convicting the victim. kristopher Sep 2016 #82

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2016 #8

Whoa, whoa, whoa. What the fuck! Are you serious? Solomon Sep 2016 #12

+++ FALSE ++++ The face book vid no doubt shows the gun was planted uponit7771 Sep 2016 #9

We disagree, then Albertoo Sep 2016 #10

Canyou link to that video? I've only seen the CNN one by the wife. Thanks!! nt jmg257 Sep 2016 #11

Here... please keep focus ONLY... ONLY on the left leg of the LEO in red uponit7771 Sep 2016 #13

By the guy in red's left foot is the "gun" in the opening still frame - clearly it by his heel. jmg257 Sep 2016 #20

No, I didn't listen to the narrarator I looked at the object next to the foot of the LEO in red... uponit7771 Sep 2016 #39

Ah got ya - see other post - just got back to this. nt jmg257 Sep 2016 #46

The one he links is an edited version of the wifes video Egnever Sep 2016 #17

Link to proof it was edited? I don't mind retracting and posting a correction... tia uponit7771 Sep 2016 #21

The full video is in the op Egnever Sep 2016 #24

Agreed. Still not seeing a plant. nt jmg257 Sep 2016 #23

False? Egnever Sep 2016 #14

Yes it is, I can see the left leg of the LEO in red and the gun "appear"... I'm not caring about wha uponit7771 Sep 2016 #16

Did you even look at the screenshots and compare them to the times in the video? Egnever Sep 2016 #22

Could you point out the time stamp in any other vid where the LEO in red kicks anything... uponit7771 Sep 2016 #34

Pick me a full version of it and I will find it for you Egnever Sep 2016 #41

OK, saw the analysis and the vids uncut... still going with a throw down for one simple reason uponit7771 Sep 2016 #43

I wouldn't argue Shady with you for a minute Egnever Sep 2016 #49

True but there were already LEOs standing over him before he got there. uponit7771 Sep 2016 #74

Agree - you can see he MOVES his foot and you can see the gun - it has been there since jmg257 Sep 2016 #26

Could you point out the time stamp on this? tia uponit7771 Sep 2016 #38

Yes - if you play the OP video full screen and pause it around 1:21, you can adv/rev by second. jmg257 Sep 2016 #42

See post 41 uponit7771 Sep 2016 #44

Understood. Though now I get a better understanding over why they don't just "release the video" jmg257 Sep 2016 #47

The image from around 1.22 in the OP makes it pretty clear FBaggins Sep 2016 #50

So that means they dropped the gun, and then B2G Sep 2016 #18

No uponit7771 Sep 2016 #19

Then how did his fingerprints get on the plant? nt B2G Sep 2016 #29

Cause they had possession of the victim and the weapon? I see you're implicitly giving them the BOTD uponit7771 Sep 2016 #37

When his wife keeps telling him, Keith don't do it madokie Sep 2016 #15

This. deathrind Sep 2016 #27

It could NOT have been pointing the gun at the LEO's seeing the Chief said that's not what happened. uponit7771 Sep 2016 #35

I dont think it matters Egnever Sep 2016 #52

the wife appeared to be having a "converstion" with the police and Keith simultaneously etherealtruth Sep 2016 #48

It was 'Keith don't do it' madokie Sep 2016 #57

Am I correct this all happened because an innocent black guy was sitting in a car with something Hoyt Sep 2016 #53

Absolutely not Egnever Sep 2016 #54

But the whole "he had a gun" just excuses his shooting in too many peoples' minds. I don't care Hoyt Sep 2016 #55

I am in partial agreement with you Egnever Sep 2016 #56

I don't see people advocating violent riots or destruction of property, protests yes. nt BootinUp Sep 2016 #77

If he had a gun, he was committing a crime by having it, without a doubt. Yo_Mama Sep 2016 #60

+1!! This is what's There's no one arguing whether or not he posed a threat FROM THE START !!! uponit7771 Sep 2016 #70

That was my impression too - that he did have a gun. Yo_Mama Sep 2016 #58

I mostly agree but say he did have a gun, it doesn't support the CPD's story FROM THE START... uponit7771 Sep 2016 #71

there is something on the ground, but unclear what it is. librechik Sep 2016 #59

Agreed you can not tell for sure it is a gun Egnever Sep 2016 #63

Sorry cannot tell if there is a gun on the ground standingtall Sep 2016 #61

Nope can't positively identify it as a gun from that video alone Egnever Sep 2016 #62

Body cam and dash cam videos of the Scott shooting in NC. It was a BAD shoot! tblue37 Sep 2016 #64

I agree it was unecessary Egnever Sep 2016 #67

Hmmmmm, the shooting might be justified but what about the CPD needlessly escalating uponit7771 Sep 2016 #72

What on earth makes you think, if that is the gun, that red shirt didn't remove it from his ankle? Schema Thing Sep 2016 #65

The body cam footage actually. Egnever Sep 2016 #66

From the body cam footage: where's the gun? yodermon Sep 2016 #68

in that angle it is in the shadow of the truck Egnever Sep 2016 #69

hmmmm,.. looking at both pics that object is white... it's not glare of the sun.... uponit7771 Sep 2016 #73

No way is that a gun. IMO. n/t yodermon Sep 2016 #75

He had a gun. n/t Lil Missy Sep 2016 #76

Seems awfully suspicious they have other videos but only release these, could it be doc03 Sep 2016 #79