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(6,324 posts)Is more than enough reason to engage him in NC.
I was a deputy in NC for many years, and I am very familiar with what constitutes reasonable suspicion. Those two items together are a sure fit for further investigation and any judge in the state would agree.
Sure, the defense would try to use the same arguments you are. I've seen in court the "it could have been tobacco rolled up and not marijuana" and I've never seen that defense work. Because it goes on the reasonable person/cop standard and everybody knows that 95-99% of the rolling papers sold get used for marijuana and a reasonable person will assume to a high likelihood a person rolling one up isn't rolling up some artisanal tobacco blend, so that alone is enough reason to engage him. If it turns out he was rolling tobacco it's still a legitimate contact because the overwhelming odds point one way.
Been there, done that, watched the silly defense you are making fail every time even in front of the most liberal judges we had.
The sighting of the gun just seals the legitimacy of the decision to contact.
You can keep making this absurd argument, but it's not grounded in reality.