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demwing

(16,916 posts)
116. There is no on/off switch to a police state
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 11:14 AM
Jun 2012

the best defense is awareness and resistance before the shit hits.

Papers, please. woo me with science Jun 2012 #1
Scary. :( And it sucks. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #2
Only the Bad People will have anything to fear. malthaussen Jun 2012 #3
but, but, we don't live in a police state.... KG Jun 2012 #4
We don't, as OP did not have to produce the license treestar Jun 2012 #79
I suggest you read rhett o rick Jun 2012 #84
Okay. randome Jun 2012 #87
I live in the U.S. treestar Jun 2012 #97
Sounds like a mantra demwing Jun 2012 #106
Helps to get out once in a while. Robb Jun 2012 #109
The US is not a police state treestar Jun 2012 #111
What is one man's "reason to exaggerate and be ridiculous" demwing Jun 2012 #118
Not yet whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #123
It is not black or white. A society does not normally go from tblue37 Jun 2012 #168
Again, this alleged victim of TSA malfeasance treestar Jun 2012 #169
what would have happened if OP had refused magical thyme Jun 2012 #103
If so much is at stake treestar Jun 2012 #112
Yesterday no TSA in the bus stops but they're there today. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #88
I told you RobertEarl Jun 2012 #5
can you please tell generally where this happened? grasswire Jun 2012 #6
TPTB imported the tyranny here after WW2. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #74
Appalling. (nt) enough Jun 2012 #7
Wow, when something like this happens to me... demobabe Jun 2012 #8
I'd have told him that if I had a DL, then I wouldn't need to be waiting for the freaking bus notadmblnd Jun 2012 #9
I agree. I would have told him the same thing. n/t RebelOne Jun 2012 #17
Time to defund, dismantle, and restrict all the way to a Constitutional amendment TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #10
I get outraged when I have to go through the Border Patrol stops to go north from where I live panader0 Jun 2012 #11
No kidding huh Meiko Jun 2012 #40
I have gone through hundreds of times and never had anything but a courteous exchange grantcart Jun 2012 #146
I am very anti-meth panader0 Jun 2012 #149
Its not possible to stop all of the bad agents within 10 feet of the border. grantcart Jun 2012 #154
I agree that not all of the meth can be caught "within 10 feet of the border". panader0 Jun 2012 #156
The buffer zone is next to the border because they can't catch everyone within 10 feet of the border grantcart Jun 2012 #162
What's TSA? I know what HSA is. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #12
Transportation Security Administration, freedom fighter jh Jun 2012 #15
was it TSA for sure KT2000 Jun 2012 #13
The TSA makes an appearance on the San Diego Trolley Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2012 #14
It is absolutely untrue that the TSA has ever looked for any illegal immigrants grantcart Jun 2012 #151
I was there and it made the news. Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2012 #153
Your are completely intellectually dishonest. grantcart Jun 2012 #158
I sound deranged? Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2012 #170
ICE have multiple joint task forces where they are used solely to target suspected members of gangs grantcart Jun 2012 #178
So hanging around public transit facilities while the TSA sweeps for *whatever* isn't trolling? Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2012 #179
Two Words: demwing Jun 2012 #16
Or rather.... A HERETIC I AM Jun 2012 #19
Yep. I don't know right now what actual authority they have to fuck with me demwing Jun 2012 #30
nimrod -- haha -- I haven't heard that word in years grasswire Jun 2012 #89
I remember being told I was paranoid for predicting that they would not stop with sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #18
I have found that most people who use the "thin edge of the wedge" argument are hooted down malthaussen Jun 2012 #26
they are slowly conditioning us to accept this as normal. zeemike Jun 2012 #27
You won't even be safe in your home, either. Not with what will evolve from this: Zalatix Jun 2012 #36
We're always paranoid, hyperbolic conspiracy nuts right up until the moment we're Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #35
Same here suffragette Jun 2012 #73
I can certainly relate lunatica Jun 2012 #78
Do you live within 100 miles of the Canadian border, the Mexican border, or either coast? freedom fighter jh Jun 2012 #20
not even cops can demand to see DL, unless you are a motor vehicle is involved. pasto76 Jun 2012 #21
Good point treestar Jun 2012 #80
They can keep you from getting on a bus or train or subway if you refuse to cooperate with them sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #92
Was this an armed uniformed officer? Historic NY Jun 2012 #22
This thread needed a TON more details. n/t lies and propaganda Jun 2012 #23
Weird and hard to believe!!! nt greytdemocrat Jun 2012 #24
True and documented! Google TSA and VIPR. There have actually been many posts about this on DU also suffragette Jun 2012 #62
Thanks for the facts grantcart Jun 2012 #148
The confirmation that TSA was present is on the METRO's own blog site suffragette Jun 2012 #175
I'd have laughed in his face, and called him a freakin' idiot! RoccoR5955 Jun 2012 #25
Maybe Mittens Robme got hold of a TSA uniform spiderpig Jun 2012 #28
I find this part troubling: I wasn't wearing a turbin, a head scarf or a Burka...? NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #29
My interpretation of that was malthaussen Jun 2012 #33
Thank you. Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #95
But if you're not doing anything wrong, why do you object to this? GoneOffShore Jun 2012 #31
Most of the time, I AM guilty demwing Jun 2012 #34
We should all get cards printed demwing Jun 2012 #32
.... Fire Walk With Me Jun 2012 #38
LOL I want some! DiverDave Jun 2012 #83
Love it! whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #126
I like that idea! Not that they know what the 4th Amendment is anymore, as we've seen from their sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #132
Oh hell Yes!. n/t PavePusher Jun 2012 #140
Where did this incident occur? How do you know the person asking coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #37
His/her profile indicates Minnesota KamaAina Jun 2012 #135
He was probably just trying to make sure you didn't have some WEED in your luggage. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #39
Maybe it was Mitt ... GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #41
Maybe it's time we carry around wallet-size copies of the Bill of Rights for times like this. rug Jun 2012 #42
I keep a pocket-sized edition of the Constitution at my desk at work... PavePusher Jun 2012 #143
I carry one in my purse. xxqqqzme Jun 2012 #150
A poster who doesn't respond to questions in his own post? randome Jun 2012 #43
Geez, Not everyone lives on the Internet demwing Jun 2012 #44
Sure. randome Jun 2012 #45
You got that right NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #46
So maybe its not true. So what? demwing Jun 2012 #48
Why are you so defensive about this? NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #49
Because it irks me to see someone get called a liar demwing Jun 2012 #56
Been done to me, getting on a USAF flight to deploy. n/t PavePusher Jun 2012 #145
Sure it did NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #165
Also had small screwdriver set (for glasses, etc.) confiscated. PavePusher Jun 2012 #166
Jesus Christ, no one is asking you to believe everything you read demwing Jun 2012 #47
Couldn't care less about the OP's character. randome Jun 2012 #50
The post is a an account of the OPs personal experience demwing Jun 2012 #55
I did not say it was false. randome Jun 2012 #57
Questioning an OP's honesty demwing Jun 2012 #66
I don't 'back away' from anything unless I think I'm wrong. randome Jun 2012 #68
The OP raised a questions, has the TSA expanded its 'program' from airports to sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #133
We get lots of OPs from DUers who DO NOT start a thread and then run from it. randome Jun 2012 #137
Good ~ sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #160
Whose soil should they inspect if not that of the U.S.? randome Jun 2012 #163
Just saw you in another thread claiming something didn't seem right DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2012 #58
Yes, that's all I do, day in, day out, ask questions. randome Jun 2012 #59
A bit more logical than believing something just because someone else asserted it treestar Jun 2012 #81
It doesn't fit with a pre-conceived notion. It fits with the facts, which have been posted over and sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #136
That's my point, you believe the OP without question treestar Jun 2012 #141
Come on, treestar. randome Jun 2012 #142
So what do you think of the TSA's now expanded program, despite having been told it would never sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #173
It doesn't matter whether I believe the OP or not. Are you saying the TSA has NOT expanded its sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #161
Until people stand up for their rights they will continue to abuse you KatChatter Jun 2012 #51
Detroit is an open-air prison. Octafish Jun 2012 #52
True or not, I did see a news clip about TSA performing security checks on buses. Proles Jun 2012 #53
There must be something wrong about the way you look slackmaster Jun 2012 #54
We MUST find ways to resist this. snot Jun 2012 #60
Saying 'No, thanks' is one way. randome Jun 2012 #67
Not buying it. GarroHorus Jun 2012 #61
Don't worry about it, 'if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about' sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #129
No, it's hard to believe because the OP has not deigned to provide us with requested details. randome Jun 2012 #130
What do you think of the TSA having these expanded power? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #157
You cited nothing to corroborate the OP GarroHorus Jun 2012 #138
It doen't matter what you buy or don't buy. The fact is the TSA has now expanded what was already sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #171
so show me a REAL instance of TSA checking IDs on a city bus GarroHorus Jun 2012 #174
Whether it's TSA or private security guards... randome Jun 2012 #164
Really? We must live in two different countries because I have never, ever been accosted by sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #172
A bus stop? treestar Jun 2012 #63
It does not have to be interstate travel for TSA to be involved. See post #62 suffragette Jun 2012 #72
all of which involves interstate commerce treestar Jun 2012 #76
Houston buses aren't interstate. also see post # 75 with the Whitehouse including intercity buses suffragette Jun 2012 #77
It's allowed under the statute you cited in post 62 treestar Jun 2012 #82
It looks like it's happening in more places, which isn't surprising given the expansion of funding suffragette Jun 2012 #100
A Maine columnist wrote about this -- his daughter was ID'd on a bus mainer Jun 2012 #64
was he on the bus? at the bus stop? spanone Jun 2012 #65
The predictable response to new corporate, neocon, or police state outrages: woo me with science Jun 2012 #69
i'll not think this is any more than a bullshit post until there's FOLLOW UP! stlsaxman Jun 2012 #70
Cool Story. MineralMan Jun 2012 #71
It's also on their ABC local news. Additionally the Whitehouse has included intercity buses suffragette Jun 2012 #75
The WH is a CS theory site? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #85
Without any details beyond the solitary post, MineralMan Jun 2012 #91
Mantra Time demwing Jun 2012 #108
You said that already. Robb Jun 2012 #110
Generally, repeating a message twice isn't sufficient demwing Jun 2012 #115
Or just roll over and claim to be victims of a police state treestar Jun 2012 #113
There is no on/off switch to a police state demwing Jun 2012 #116
Well then admit it is well before the shit hits treestar Jun 2012 #119
not "well before" but yeah, you're right demwing Jun 2012 #121
It began after 911 treestar Jun 2012 #122
But Citizen's United was a step back demwing Jun 2012 #125
Those are two different things. randome Jun 2012 #128
I saw it happening near the Greyhound bus station in Houston on Friday night. texanwitch Jun 2012 #94
TSA patrols Burnside and Apple Valley transit (bus park & rides) in Minnesota in 2012 - source MVTA suffragette Jun 2012 #98
I love riddles! Robb Jun 2012 #86
Doesn't need to be inside an airport. They've been doing this since 2010 at least: sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #90
... Robb Jun 2012 #96
Aw, thanks for the reminder of the days when US Citizens sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #99
Good. Great idea. Even better than comic books. Robb Jun 2012 #101
So who has been unlawfully detained or arrested because of it? treestar Jun 2012 #114
The questions should be 'how many terrorists has the TSA stopped so far?' sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #134
Well, it would take just one more big terror attack to get people obsessed about it again treestar Jun 2012 #139
I remember that too and we knew that Bush was just using 9/11 to implement all these policies while sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #159
Wait! Was this a Greyhound Bus stop or a CITY/ TOWN bus stop? lookingfortruth Jun 2012 #93
I refuse to believe it, woo me with science Jun 2012 #102
+1 demwing Jun 2012 #104
By Jove, I think (s)he's got it. Fla_Democrat Jun 2012 #105
Just repeat the Litany Against Oppression demwing Jun 2012 #107
And while you're at it, repeat the GOP litany: malthaussen Jun 2012 #117
Or it's recent variation demwing Jun 2012 #120
Excellent! And if you do it long and faithfully enough, woo me with science Jun 2012 #131
The second verse goes like this :- kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #155
Nailed! whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #124
TSA Bus Stop checks - haele Jun 2012 #127
Where? tawadi Jun 2012 #144
And yet so many people (of all political bents)... PavePusher Jun 2012 #147
Wonder what would have happened if you said kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #152
Papers, please! nt tblue37 Jun 2012 #167
What would have happened if you told him to fuck off? Matariki Jun 2012 #176
Related thread - If you see something, Film something demwing Jun 2012 #177
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