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In reply to the discussion: What's with the no New Deal? [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)15. About that fillibuster proof majority myth. A link from Mother Jones:
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2010/09/about-filibuster-proof-majority
Those of us who followed this daily at the time saw what was happening. But if the solution as most who despise the Democratic Party as much as the GOP does, is not to vote at all, or put any of them in, why even mention it?
Other than to depress the votes of those who want to change things in the government with a majority than cannot be filibustered, after dealing with nearly a score of GOP dominance.
How did not voting in 2010 help progressives?
If it doesn't make any difference, why do the GOP suppress Democratic voters at every oppotunity while putting out dog whistle to their voting block?
As far as this issue is concerned, I don't waste time talking to people who are not going to vote, or are determined to make the Democrats the bad guys in all of this. And it doesn't matter which part of the Democratic Party they loathe, the GOP voters will vote for their man no matter who it is.
Because they do believe voting matters and they have proven it at every single election as they have voted in a GOP majority in state houses, governor mansions, the US Congress and most of the Senate.
It is really no use talking to those who continually denigrate all Democrats. Their minds are made up, just as surely as GOP voters, only the memes are different. The results are exactly the same.
I answered the OP, that's all that's needed. EOM.
Those of us who followed this daily at the time saw what was happening. But if the solution as most who despise the Democratic Party as much as the GOP does, is not to vote at all, or put any of them in, why even mention it?
Other than to depress the votes of those who want to change things in the government with a majority than cannot be filibustered, after dealing with nearly a score of GOP dominance.
How did not voting in 2010 help progressives?
If it doesn't make any difference, why do the GOP suppress Democratic voters at every oppotunity while putting out dog whistle to their voting block?
As far as this issue is concerned, I don't waste time talking to people who are not going to vote, or are determined to make the Democrats the bad guys in all of this. And it doesn't matter which part of the Democratic Party they loathe, the GOP voters will vote for their man no matter who it is.
Because they do believe voting matters and they have proven it at every single election as they have voted in a GOP majority in state houses, governor mansions, the US Congress and most of the Senate.
It is really no use talking to those who continually denigrate all Democrats. Their minds are made up, just as surely as GOP voters, only the memes are different. The results are exactly the same.
I answered the OP, that's all that's needed. EOM.
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Every attempt to do such at the beginning of Obama's administration was shut down. And the Governor
freshwest
Jun 2012
#1
Somehow you missed those years. I saw it as it unfolded and posted then. Briefly:
freshwest
Jun 2012
#20
There is a standing Executive Order banning WPA type programs signed by Reagan
TheKentuckian
Jun 2012
#56
Of course they don't have to fund it but you are arguing they were "fought for"
TheKentuckian
Jun 2012
#62
This is whatever USA we determine to make it. If the President tried some of these things,
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2012
#26
No, it's his fault when he ignores people like Dr.'s Krugman and Stiglitz for years.
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2012
#42
TY. Funny how these fools never seem to have an answer to these very basic principles.
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2012
#51
Do you honesty think a "New Deal" WPA-like program could be passed in either chamber??
DCBob
Jun 2012
#3
I also will say your realistic tends away from effective and broadly beneficial
TheKentuckian
Jun 2012
#59
They can only be blamed for obstruction when they have an opportunity to do so
TheKentuckian
Jun 2012
#12
About 1,000,000 people visit Boulder (Hoover) Dam every year. It is one of the Wonders of the World.
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2012
#33