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In reply to the discussion: Alfred Olango: US police kill mentally ill black man [View all]haele
(15,573 posts)70. Local PBS station had a quote from the mayor of El Cajon this morning...
...who had seen the witness cell phone video. Mind you, the county DA (of whom I also have some rather colorful assessments of) had issued an order two months ago that all police incident videos cannot be released to the public as long as there is an investigation, so anyone who says they see from the one frame that was released that the victim was threatening police doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.
This was what I heard the mayor of El Cajon, Bill Wells, say in a press conference this morning on the PBS station:
I saw a man who was distraught, and a man acting like he was in great pain, Wells said. And I saw him get gunned down and killed. If he was my son, I would be devastated.
The county DA is not going to be happy with what he is saying, especially since Bill Wells job prior to taking a city council position and then being elected mayor was as a clinician working with the severely mentally ill, so he does have a lot of experience dealing with the mentally ill in crisis.
That official quote does not bode well for the police, especially since there are questions as to why the county mental health responders weren't present before the armed police responded to the call - half an hour after the first call from the sister asking for help for her brother who was experiencing a seizure that she couldn't control.
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Looks to me that the cop was clearly close enough to this man to see that he was unarmed.
MrScorpio
Sep 2016
#6
Again, it's the cop's responsibility to know whether or not they're facing a weapon...
MrScorpio
Sep 2016
#8
my point is - I will withhold judgement until I know what he was holding and pointing
DrDan
Sep 2016
#14
The thing is, it if you're black, you don't need to be armed for cops to use deadly force in America
MrScorpio
Sep 2016
#16
or something that appears to look like a gun - something other than a gun was in his hands
DrDan
Sep 2016
#35
so it could potentially look like a gun barrel - particularly in a split-second view
DrDan
Sep 2016
#50
depending how it was held - and in a shooting position - and in a split-second . . . .
DrDan
Sep 2016
#57
There also will be idiots who seem to think shootings of unarmed black is a goro thing and defend...
uponit7771
Sep 2016
#15
yes, how dare we expect police to act with consideration and intelligence!
TheSarcastinator
Sep 2016
#21
it certainly appears to be so - the picture of him taking a "shooting stance" and pointing
DrDan
Sep 2016
#37
Kill first, make excuses, smear the unarmed dead guy, ask questions later.
Stinky The Clown
Sep 2016
#17
The cops were close enough to see what was in his hands, "stance" notwithstanding
Stinky The Clown
Sep 2016
#38
"white people who have pointed actual loaded weapons at cops and have came out of it ALIVE."
Bonx
Sep 2016
#54