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Thor_MN

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32. Did you read what I said?

Sat Oct 1, 2016, 08:11 AM

Oct 2016

I swear some of you are like the dead people in The Sixth Sense... You only see what you want to see.

Yes, the request (I don't know that it was a demand, but you sure seem to want it to be) from the monks was sexist. The airline moving two people instead of four was not necessarily sexist. A lot of posts on this thread seem to really want it to be.

Do you understand? Overall, sexist motivation. But the action of moving two people instead of four is more easily explained by, duh, moving two people instead of four. So, it shouldn't have happened, but asking two people to trade seats is an easier task than having four move. Moving the two monks to a row that left only males in that row would have still been a sexist request, but that is exactly the solution that some proposed.

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Airline Gave Woman New Seat, Because Monks Cannot Sit Next To Women [View all] ripcord Sep 2016 OP

the preferred way to deal with this is to make a big show up bumping the woman up to first class unblock Sep 2016 #1

Absolutely -- that was my first thought in reading the story as outlined. Bump her up Akamai Oct 2016 #78

Why not make the fucking monks move? stopbush Sep 2016 #2

^^^^^^^^ MANative Sep 2016 #4

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2016 #17

Make them move right the fuck off the plane. Mariana Oct 2016 #23

Good point. Chemisse Oct 2016 #57

Finding 2 seats vs finding 1 seat is probably a big factor kristopher Oct 2016 #109

You don't need to find two seats. stopbush Oct 2016 #112

Zealots are everywhere. kristopher Oct 2016 #114

Grrr Egnever Sep 2016 #3

Yes, they should have Warpy Sep 2016 #5

Yeah, I've been around more than my share of Buddhist monks in my day Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #12

Surely the Monks know they'll be encountering women in their travels Cakes488 Oct 2016 #130

^^This^^ Gormy Cuss Oct 2016 #40

That was my first thought. Doreen Oct 2016 #106

Only some monks are celibate. kristopher Oct 2016 #107

Theravada Buddhism. Odin2005 Oct 2016 #128

Yes, they are, especially within the monastery Warpy Oct 2016 #129

The most infuriating thing about this is... Odin2005 Oct 2016 #138

Doesn't matter. People will always rewrite religion to support their bias and bigotry. icymist Oct 2016 #140

A slippery slope! yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2016 #6

Buddhist monks will "endure" a woman's touch Nevernose Sep 2016 #7

Theravada is the sect I'm most familiar with, also Warpy Sep 2016 #8

I'm more upset with United ripcord Sep 2016 #13

I'm upset with United, too. athena Oct 2016 #132

alternatively you could be making a sweeping generalization about a half billion people. kristopher Oct 2016 #115

I didn't realize that there were half a billion Buddhist monks Nevernose Oct 2016 #116

It's still a sweeping generalization kristopher Oct 2016 #119

I call bullshit too. Exilednight Oct 2016 #124

they should have moved the monks to the absolute rear seats of the plane. demigoddess Sep 2016 #9

Tell them the pilot is a woman, and put them on the next bullock cart to Houston Donkees Oct 2016 #63

Should have just gave the monks a cooties shot davidn3600 Sep 2016 #10

Cooties shots have thermisol. Dr. Strange Oct 2016 #43

I think the rule is that if you are the one with the religious or other restriction Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #11

You hit that squarely on the nose! apcalc Oct 2016 #30

STOP CATERING TO THESE WOMEN-HATING PIECES OF SHIT Skittles Sep 2016 #14

I'm with you. apcalc Oct 2016 #31

There you go. They should not have been accommodated. Period. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #33

THANK YOU Skittles Oct 2016 #66

Yep. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #67

Yeppers...misogyny is the safe prejudice. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #126

That would make too much sense! Oneironaut Oct 2016 #88

My thought exactly Amaril Oct 2016 #136

The whole thing is stupid, but moving two people is more efficient than moving four. Thor_MN Sep 2016 #15

LOL WTF Skittles Oct 2016 #19

Did you read what I said? Thor_MN Oct 2016 #32

NO ACCOMMODATING THIS SEXIST GARBAGE Skittles Oct 2016 #65

I thought so. Dead. Only see what you want to see. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #69

OK here you go Skittles Oct 2016 #74

you are rationalizing sexist behavior as efficiency and cost-effectiveness. LanternWaste Oct 2016 #101

+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #118

I think you're being understood perfectly fine -nt Bradical79 Oct 2016 #108

Yes, the potential disruption to airline operations is the key point here. Brickbat Oct 2016 #44

Your sarcasm instead of logic is noted. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #50

Which is not what I said. Brickbat Oct 2016 #52

Which is what I said, but that doesn't matter, because you want to be outraged. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #53

Outrage is exhausting, which is why I stick to sarcasm. Brickbat Oct 2016 #56

Suit yourself. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #61

This is clearly sexist RelativelyJones Oct 2016 #55

Reading comprehension is at a premium these days. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #62

The actual move was sexist, SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #68

God, does anyone know how to read? Thor_MN Oct 2016 #70

I've chosen to take the side that the request should not have been accommodated. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #71

Then you are not even on the same page as what I have said. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #73

1) I am not shouting. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #75

Again with the baying at the moon? Thor_MN Oct 2016 #76

Yes, I am replying to you. You're amusing. Sort of. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #79

So you admit that you are a bully and are trying to force me to accept your viewpoint. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #85

No, you don't understand my point. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #92

Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #93

*I'm* a bully? SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #94

Kind of hard to face reality when you have to bend it so much, huh? Thor_MN Oct 2016 #97

there is also the idea that these sexist guys should have made their request at the demigoddess Oct 2016 #81

Granted, and totally irrelevant to what I said. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #86

Why should their request be accommodated at all? athena Oct 2016 #133

Since I have decided to chime in... RelativelyJones Oct 2016 #84

My point was narrow, which I said from the very begining. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #87

Uh, you just said, in the single post I am replying to, SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #90

Really? Thor_MN Oct 2016 #91

Good grief. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #95

Good, because you are the one trying to bully. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #98

Wow, some people just won't back down when they are beaten with reason. smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #120

Thanks. It was interesting. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #122

And if they didn't want to sit next to blacks TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2016 #100

+1000 RelativelyJones Oct 2016 #102

Exactly what I was thinking. athena Oct 2016 #131

Only you and your martyred state it would seem LanternWaste Oct 2016 #103

Your logic is pretty awful -nt Bradical79 Oct 2016 #111

Did they upgrade her seating? I wouldn't get mad at all if I got some kind of upgrade. Hekate Sep 2016 #16

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2016 #18

Yeah, that wouldn't be so bad. Bradical79 Oct 2016 #113

I would not have accepted an upgrade. athena Oct 2016 #134

Flying these days is the pits. *Please* give me an upgrade. Hekate Oct 2016 #141

I'm shocked, just SHOCKED PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2016 #20

How do these misogynistic religious nuts think they came into being in the first place? spiderpig Oct 2016 #21

The monks behavior was not even canonical; shame on the airline for caving in. Albertoo Oct 2016 #22

There you go. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #34

I thought of that exact story when I saw this thread! Odin2005 Oct 2016 #139

I guess Buddhophobia is acceptable Ex Lurker Oct 2016 #24

NOT FROM ME THERE ISN'T Skittles Oct 2016 #25

Huh? SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #38

If you meet the Buddha on the road Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #60

I noticed that, too. Marr Oct 2016 #105

we all agree, that forcing someone to move from an airplane seat they paid for due to their gender Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #26

Well, there's a blast from the past! opiate69 Oct 2016 #47

You know Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Oct 2016 #27

Better yet, SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #36

If the airline decided they wanted to deal with this ripcord Oct 2016 #48

Very true - volunteer would have been preferable. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #49

The airlines cater to people that believe in invisible things that don't exist, yortsed snacilbuper Oct 2016 #28

That's a good point treestar Oct 2016 #121

The women should have simply offered to wear hijab jberryhill Oct 2016 #29

I hear vanity fair says hijab is fashion Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #59

That's bullshit! They should have been forced to pay for her plane ticket. smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #35

No, they wouldn't have. I hope. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #37

And people want me to respect their "sincerely held religious beliefs." Iggo Oct 2016 #39

I respect their right to hold the beliefs, not the beliefs themselves. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #41

At the risk of invoking "no true Scotsman" as an (admittedly bad) Buddhist, I have to point out that Coventina Oct 2016 #42

Sorry. This is all I can think about. Glassunion Oct 2016 #45

OK, thanks for making me laugh! Coventina Oct 2016 #46

Sounds like another case of ego impersonating spirituality Donkees Oct 2016 #51

I have never heard it put that way before, but you just hit the nail on the head. smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #54

If they wanted to move her, it should have been to First Class. Laffy Kat Oct 2016 #64

they should make them pay extra for the tickets JI7 Oct 2016 #72

I am such a stubborn cuss SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #77

Unless you have airline folks among family or friends, you have no idea LuckyLib Oct 2016 #80

I worked as a cashier in a grocery store for a while Amaril Oct 2016 #137

My religious beliefs require that I be provided with an entire row LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2016 #82

. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #96

I had the same thing happen to me on a flight from New York to Switzerland DFW Oct 2016 #83

Next time I'm stuck in a middle seat 6chars Oct 2016 #89

Maybe the monks should have been on a higher plane. Orrex Oct 2016 #99

In front of the monks, she should have been upgraded to first class. appleannie1 Oct 2016 #104

It will be my pleasure to help you, gentlemen! HassleCat Oct 2016 #110

LOL. Best response so far. (n/t) athena Oct 2016 #135

Utterly absurd that common sense flies out the window. hamsterjill Oct 2016 #117

at least she wasnt honor killed! bright side people bright side. nt JanMichael Oct 2016 #123

Since when do airplane companies need to obey ANY passenger in this manner? Take back their tix and WinkyDink Oct 2016 #125

This Buddhist is facepalming. Odin2005 Oct 2016 #127