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SusanCalvin

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90. Uh, you just said, in the single post I am replying to,

Sun Oct 2, 2016, 09:59 AM

Oct 2016

1) "Yet a lot of people want to hit it with a sledge hammer and say over and over that the entire incident was sexist. Well, duh, I have said that in all my posts." (Italics mine.)

2) "And got a bunch of people with their undies in a bunch outraged that even a small aspect of the situation might not have necessarily been sexist." (Again, italics mine.)

Contradictory, I submit. And, I submit, not the first time, although I believe it's the first time in a single post.

ETA: Oh myyyyyyyyyy......

I came in in the middle of this brouhaha, so I just noticed this in the post that started it all, good 'ol #15:

"I don't think there is necessarily a sexist component to what the airline did, other than accommodating a sexist request." (Once again, italics mine.)

Ladies and gentlemen, the root of the righteously bunched panties.

Accommodating a sexist request is sexist. The point that followed about how to do it efficiently is deck chairs on the Titanic.

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Airline Gave Woman New Seat, Because Monks Cannot Sit Next To Women [View all] ripcord Sep 2016 OP

the preferred way to deal with this is to make a big show up bumping the woman up to first class unblock Sep 2016 #1

Absolutely -- that was my first thought in reading the story as outlined. Bump her up Akamai Oct 2016 #78

Why not make the fucking monks move? stopbush Sep 2016 #2

^^^^^^^^ MANative Sep 2016 #4

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2016 #17

Make them move right the fuck off the plane. Mariana Oct 2016 #23

Good point. Chemisse Oct 2016 #57

Finding 2 seats vs finding 1 seat is probably a big factor kristopher Oct 2016 #109

You don't need to find two seats. stopbush Oct 2016 #112

Zealots are everywhere. kristopher Oct 2016 #114

Grrr Egnever Sep 2016 #3

Yes, they should have Warpy Sep 2016 #5

Yeah, I've been around more than my share of Buddhist monks in my day Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #12

Surely the Monks know they'll be encountering women in their travels Cakes488 Oct 2016 #130

^^This^^ Gormy Cuss Oct 2016 #40

That was my first thought. Doreen Oct 2016 #106

Only some monks are celibate. kristopher Oct 2016 #107

Theravada Buddhism. Odin2005 Oct 2016 #128

Yes, they are, especially within the monastery Warpy Oct 2016 #129

The most infuriating thing about this is... Odin2005 Oct 2016 #138

Doesn't matter. People will always rewrite religion to support their bias and bigotry. icymist Oct 2016 #140

A slippery slope! yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2016 #6

Buddhist monks will "endure" a woman's touch Nevernose Sep 2016 #7

Theravada is the sect I'm most familiar with, also Warpy Sep 2016 #8

I'm more upset with United ripcord Sep 2016 #13

I'm upset with United, too. athena Oct 2016 #132

alternatively you could be making a sweeping generalization about a half billion people. kristopher Oct 2016 #115

I didn't realize that there were half a billion Buddhist monks Nevernose Oct 2016 #116

It's still a sweeping generalization kristopher Oct 2016 #119

I call bullshit too. Exilednight Oct 2016 #124

they should have moved the monks to the absolute rear seats of the plane. demigoddess Sep 2016 #9

Tell them the pilot is a woman, and put them on the next bullock cart to Houston Donkees Oct 2016 #63

Should have just gave the monks a cooties shot davidn3600 Sep 2016 #10

Cooties shots have thermisol. Dr. Strange Oct 2016 #43

I think the rule is that if you are the one with the religious or other restriction Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #11

You hit that squarely on the nose! apcalc Oct 2016 #30

STOP CATERING TO THESE WOMEN-HATING PIECES OF SHIT Skittles Sep 2016 #14

I'm with you. apcalc Oct 2016 #31

There you go. They should not have been accommodated. Period. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #33

THANK YOU Skittles Oct 2016 #66

Yep. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #67

Yeppers...misogyny is the safe prejudice. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #126

That would make too much sense! Oneironaut Oct 2016 #88

My thought exactly Amaril Oct 2016 #136

The whole thing is stupid, but moving two people is more efficient than moving four. Thor_MN Sep 2016 #15

LOL WTF Skittles Oct 2016 #19

Did you read what I said? Thor_MN Oct 2016 #32

NO ACCOMMODATING THIS SEXIST GARBAGE Skittles Oct 2016 #65

I thought so. Dead. Only see what you want to see. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #69

OK here you go Skittles Oct 2016 #74

you are rationalizing sexist behavior as efficiency and cost-effectiveness. LanternWaste Oct 2016 #101

+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #118

I think you're being understood perfectly fine -nt Bradical79 Oct 2016 #108

Yes, the potential disruption to airline operations is the key point here. Brickbat Oct 2016 #44

Your sarcasm instead of logic is noted. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #50

Which is not what I said. Brickbat Oct 2016 #52

Which is what I said, but that doesn't matter, because you want to be outraged. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #53

Outrage is exhausting, which is why I stick to sarcasm. Brickbat Oct 2016 #56

Suit yourself. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #61

This is clearly sexist RelativelyJones Oct 2016 #55

Reading comprehension is at a premium these days. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #62

The actual move was sexist, SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #68

God, does anyone know how to read? Thor_MN Oct 2016 #70

I've chosen to take the side that the request should not have been accommodated. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #71

Then you are not even on the same page as what I have said. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #73

1) I am not shouting. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #75

Again with the baying at the moon? Thor_MN Oct 2016 #76

Yes, I am replying to you. You're amusing. Sort of. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #79

So you admit that you are a bully and are trying to force me to accept your viewpoint. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #85

No, you don't understand my point. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #92

Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #93

*I'm* a bully? SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #94

Kind of hard to face reality when you have to bend it so much, huh? Thor_MN Oct 2016 #97

there is also the idea that these sexist guys should have made their request at the demigoddess Oct 2016 #81

Granted, and totally irrelevant to what I said. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #86

Why should their request be accommodated at all? athena Oct 2016 #133

Since I have decided to chime in... RelativelyJones Oct 2016 #84

My point was narrow, which I said from the very begining. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #87

Uh, you just said, in the single post I am replying to, SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #90

Really? Thor_MN Oct 2016 #91

Good grief. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #95

Good, because you are the one trying to bully. Thor_MN Oct 2016 #98

Wow, some people just won't back down when they are beaten with reason. smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #120

Thanks. It was interesting. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #122

And if they didn't want to sit next to blacks TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2016 #100

+1000 RelativelyJones Oct 2016 #102

Exactly what I was thinking. athena Oct 2016 #131

Only you and your martyred state it would seem LanternWaste Oct 2016 #103

Your logic is pretty awful -nt Bradical79 Oct 2016 #111

Did they upgrade her seating? I wouldn't get mad at all if I got some kind of upgrade. Hekate Sep 2016 #16

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2016 #18

Yeah, that wouldn't be so bad. Bradical79 Oct 2016 #113

I would not have accepted an upgrade. athena Oct 2016 #134

Flying these days is the pits. *Please* give me an upgrade. Hekate Oct 2016 #141

I'm shocked, just SHOCKED PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2016 #20

How do these misogynistic religious nuts think they came into being in the first place? spiderpig Oct 2016 #21

The monks behavior was not even canonical; shame on the airline for caving in. Albertoo Oct 2016 #22

There you go. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #34

I thought of that exact story when I saw this thread! Odin2005 Oct 2016 #139

I guess Buddhophobia is acceptable Ex Lurker Oct 2016 #24

NOT FROM ME THERE ISN'T Skittles Oct 2016 #25

Huh? SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #38

If you meet the Buddha on the road Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #60

I noticed that, too. Marr Oct 2016 #105

we all agree, that forcing someone to move from an airplane seat they paid for due to their gender Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #26

Well, there's a blast from the past! opiate69 Oct 2016 #47

You know Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Oct 2016 #27

Better yet, SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #36

If the airline decided they wanted to deal with this ripcord Oct 2016 #48

Very true - volunteer would have been preferable. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #49

The airlines cater to people that believe in invisible things that don't exist, yortsed snacilbuper Oct 2016 #28

That's a good point treestar Oct 2016 #121

The women should have simply offered to wear hijab jberryhill Oct 2016 #29

I hear vanity fair says hijab is fashion Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #59

That's bullshit! They should have been forced to pay for her plane ticket. smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #35

No, they wouldn't have. I hope. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #37

And people want me to respect their "sincerely held religious beliefs." Iggo Oct 2016 #39

I respect their right to hold the beliefs, not the beliefs themselves. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #41

At the risk of invoking "no true Scotsman" as an (admittedly bad) Buddhist, I have to point out that Coventina Oct 2016 #42

Sorry. This is all I can think about. Glassunion Oct 2016 #45

OK, thanks for making me laugh! Coventina Oct 2016 #46

Sounds like another case of ego impersonating spirituality Donkees Oct 2016 #51

I have never heard it put that way before, but you just hit the nail on the head. smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #54

If they wanted to move her, it should have been to First Class. Laffy Kat Oct 2016 #64

they should make them pay extra for the tickets JI7 Oct 2016 #72

I am such a stubborn cuss SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #77

Unless you have airline folks among family or friends, you have no idea LuckyLib Oct 2016 #80

I worked as a cashier in a grocery store for a while Amaril Oct 2016 #137

My religious beliefs require that I be provided with an entire row LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2016 #82

. SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #96

I had the same thing happen to me on a flight from New York to Switzerland DFW Oct 2016 #83

Next time I'm stuck in a middle seat 6chars Oct 2016 #89

Maybe the monks should have been on a higher plane. Orrex Oct 2016 #99

In front of the monks, she should have been upgraded to first class. appleannie1 Oct 2016 #104

It will be my pleasure to help you, gentlemen! HassleCat Oct 2016 #110

LOL. Best response so far. (n/t) athena Oct 2016 #135

Utterly absurd that common sense flies out the window. hamsterjill Oct 2016 #117

at least she wasnt honor killed! bright side people bright side. nt JanMichael Oct 2016 #123

Since when do airplane companies need to obey ANY passenger in this manner? Take back their tix and WinkyDink Oct 2016 #125

This Buddhist is facepalming. Odin2005 Oct 2016 #127