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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
158. Your are completely intellectually dishonest.
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 04:19 PM
Jun 2012

In your preedited version there was no mention of the border patrol.

Yes the border patrol has arresting authority.


Now for the spurious allegation that you were able to get a TSA employee to admit that they were "looking for (derogatory term for Hispanics", after you told them to 'fuck off'.

I don't believe that you told the officer to 'fuck off'.

I don't believe that he told you that he was "looking for (derogatory term for Hispanics".

I don't believe that the the TSA "targets Hispanics"

Googling "TSA targets hispanics" I find zero hits for 2012

but the most recent hit is for something in June of 2011 in Newark.


So you are alleging that the TSA is conducting operations to troll for Hispanics even though if they found any they would be unable to take any action because they are not LEOs (Federal Law Enforcement Officers) and do not have authority to make an arrest or detain an illegal immigrant, and that the TSA is conducting operations for Hispanics and using racial slurs even though no one else in the entire nation has seen the TSA do the same thing anywhere else.

I don't even believe that you were on the trolley.

So in addition to this enormous coincidence of you being on the only public trasportation where TSA agents are accused of brazenly admitting in public that they are going after in a trolley that was filled with Hispanics in a city where Hispanics are the largest ethnic group in front of Border Patrol agents who 60% of the time in the San Diego sector are Hispanic after you told a TSA employee who, in San Diego, is most likely to be Hispanic to go "fuck himself" he confided to you that he was really only after "derogatory term for Hispanics"?

Do you have any idea how deranged you sound?

Papers, please. woo me with science Jun 2012 #1
Scary. :( And it sucks. LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #2
Only the Bad People will have anything to fear. malthaussen Jun 2012 #3
but, but, we don't live in a police state.... KG Jun 2012 #4
We don't, as OP did not have to produce the license treestar Jun 2012 #79
I suggest you read rhett o rick Jun 2012 #84
Okay. randome Jun 2012 #87
I live in the U.S. treestar Jun 2012 #97
Sounds like a mantra demwing Jun 2012 #106
Helps to get out once in a while. Robb Jun 2012 #109
The US is not a police state treestar Jun 2012 #111
What is one man's "reason to exaggerate and be ridiculous" demwing Jun 2012 #118
Not yet whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #123
It is not black or white. A society does not normally go from tblue37 Jun 2012 #168
Again, this alleged victim of TSA malfeasance treestar Jun 2012 #169
what would have happened if OP had refused magical thyme Jun 2012 #103
If so much is at stake treestar Jun 2012 #112
Yesterday no TSA in the bus stops but they're there today. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #88
I told you RobertEarl Jun 2012 #5
can you please tell generally where this happened? grasswire Jun 2012 #6
TPTB imported the tyranny here after WW2. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #74
Appalling. (nt) enough Jun 2012 #7
Wow, when something like this happens to me... demobabe Jun 2012 #8
I'd have told him that if I had a DL, then I wouldn't need to be waiting for the freaking bus notadmblnd Jun 2012 #9
I agree. I would have told him the same thing. n/t RebelOne Jun 2012 #17
Time to defund, dismantle, and restrict all the way to a Constitutional amendment TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #10
I get outraged when I have to go through the Border Patrol stops to go north from where I live panader0 Jun 2012 #11
No kidding huh Meiko Jun 2012 #40
I have gone through hundreds of times and never had anything but a courteous exchange grantcart Jun 2012 #146
I am very anti-meth panader0 Jun 2012 #149
Its not possible to stop all of the bad agents within 10 feet of the border. grantcart Jun 2012 #154
I agree that not all of the meth can be caught "within 10 feet of the border". panader0 Jun 2012 #156
The buffer zone is next to the border because they can't catch everyone within 10 feet of the border grantcart Jun 2012 #162
What's TSA? I know what HSA is. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #12
Transportation Security Administration, freedom fighter jh Jun 2012 #15
was it TSA for sure KT2000 Jun 2012 #13
The TSA makes an appearance on the San Diego Trolley Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2012 #14
It is absolutely untrue that the TSA has ever looked for any illegal immigrants grantcart Jun 2012 #151
I was there and it made the news. Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2012 #153
Your are completely intellectually dishonest. grantcart Jun 2012 #158
I sound deranged? Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2012 #170
ICE have multiple joint task forces where they are used solely to target suspected members of gangs grantcart Jun 2012 #178
So hanging around public transit facilities while the TSA sweeps for *whatever* isn't trolling? Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2012 #179
Two Words: demwing Jun 2012 #16
Or rather.... A HERETIC I AM Jun 2012 #19
Yep. I don't know right now what actual authority they have to fuck with me demwing Jun 2012 #30
nimrod -- haha -- I haven't heard that word in years grasswire Jun 2012 #89
I remember being told I was paranoid for predicting that they would not stop with sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #18
I have found that most people who use the "thin edge of the wedge" argument are hooted down malthaussen Jun 2012 #26
they are slowly conditioning us to accept this as normal. zeemike Jun 2012 #27
You won't even be safe in your home, either. Not with what will evolve from this: Zalatix Jun 2012 #36
We're always paranoid, hyperbolic conspiracy nuts right up until the moment we're Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #35
Same here suffragette Jun 2012 #73
I can certainly relate lunatica Jun 2012 #78
Do you live within 100 miles of the Canadian border, the Mexican border, or either coast? freedom fighter jh Jun 2012 #20
not even cops can demand to see DL, unless you are a motor vehicle is involved. pasto76 Jun 2012 #21
Good point treestar Jun 2012 #80
They can keep you from getting on a bus or train or subway if you refuse to cooperate with them sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #92
Was this an armed uniformed officer? Historic NY Jun 2012 #22
This thread needed a TON more details. n/t lies and propaganda Jun 2012 #23
Weird and hard to believe!!! nt greytdemocrat Jun 2012 #24
True and documented! Google TSA and VIPR. There have actually been many posts about this on DU also suffragette Jun 2012 #62
Thanks for the facts grantcart Jun 2012 #148
The confirmation that TSA was present is on the METRO's own blog site suffragette Jun 2012 #175
I'd have laughed in his face, and called him a freakin' idiot! RoccoR5955 Jun 2012 #25
Maybe Mittens Robme got hold of a TSA uniform spiderpig Jun 2012 #28
I find this part troubling: I wasn't wearing a turbin, a head scarf or a Burka...? NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #29
My interpretation of that was malthaussen Jun 2012 #33
Thank you. Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #95
But if you're not doing anything wrong, why do you object to this? GoneOffShore Jun 2012 #31
Most of the time, I AM guilty demwing Jun 2012 #34
We should all get cards printed demwing Jun 2012 #32
.... Fire Walk With Me Jun 2012 #38
LOL I want some! DiverDave Jun 2012 #83
Love it! whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #126
I like that idea! Not that they know what the 4th Amendment is anymore, as we've seen from their sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #132
Oh hell Yes!. n/t PavePusher Jun 2012 #140
Where did this incident occur? How do you know the person asking coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #37
His/her profile indicates Minnesota KamaAina Jun 2012 #135
He was probably just trying to make sure you didn't have some WEED in your luggage. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #39
Maybe it was Mitt ... GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #41
Maybe it's time we carry around wallet-size copies of the Bill of Rights for times like this. rug Jun 2012 #42
I keep a pocket-sized edition of the Constitution at my desk at work... PavePusher Jun 2012 #143
I carry one in my purse. xxqqqzme Jun 2012 #150
A poster who doesn't respond to questions in his own post? randome Jun 2012 #43
Geez, Not everyone lives on the Internet demwing Jun 2012 #44
Sure. randome Jun 2012 #45
You got that right NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #46
So maybe its not true. So what? demwing Jun 2012 #48
Why are you so defensive about this? NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #49
Because it irks me to see someone get called a liar demwing Jun 2012 #56
Been done to me, getting on a USAF flight to deploy. n/t PavePusher Jun 2012 #145
Sure it did NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #165
Also had small screwdriver set (for glasses, etc.) confiscated. PavePusher Jun 2012 #166
Jesus Christ, no one is asking you to believe everything you read demwing Jun 2012 #47
Couldn't care less about the OP's character. randome Jun 2012 #50
The post is a an account of the OPs personal experience demwing Jun 2012 #55
I did not say it was false. randome Jun 2012 #57
Questioning an OP's honesty demwing Jun 2012 #66
I don't 'back away' from anything unless I think I'm wrong. randome Jun 2012 #68
The OP raised a questions, has the TSA expanded its 'program' from airports to sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #133
We get lots of OPs from DUers who DO NOT start a thread and then run from it. randome Jun 2012 #137
Good ~ sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #160
Whose soil should they inspect if not that of the U.S.? randome Jun 2012 #163
Just saw you in another thread claiming something didn't seem right DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2012 #58
Yes, that's all I do, day in, day out, ask questions. randome Jun 2012 #59
A bit more logical than believing something just because someone else asserted it treestar Jun 2012 #81
It doesn't fit with a pre-conceived notion. It fits with the facts, which have been posted over and sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #136
That's my point, you believe the OP without question treestar Jun 2012 #141
Come on, treestar. randome Jun 2012 #142
So what do you think of the TSA's now expanded program, despite having been told it would never sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #173
It doesn't matter whether I believe the OP or not. Are you saying the TSA has NOT expanded its sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #161
Until people stand up for their rights they will continue to abuse you KatChatter Jun 2012 #51
Detroit is an open-air prison. Octafish Jun 2012 #52
True or not, I did see a news clip about TSA performing security checks on buses. Proles Jun 2012 #53
There must be something wrong about the way you look slackmaster Jun 2012 #54
We MUST find ways to resist this. snot Jun 2012 #60
Saying 'No, thanks' is one way. randome Jun 2012 #67
Not buying it. GarroHorus Jun 2012 #61
Don't worry about it, 'if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about' sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #129
No, it's hard to believe because the OP has not deigned to provide us with requested details. randome Jun 2012 #130
What do you think of the TSA having these expanded power? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #157
You cited nothing to corroborate the OP GarroHorus Jun 2012 #138
It doen't matter what you buy or don't buy. The fact is the TSA has now expanded what was already sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #171
so show me a REAL instance of TSA checking IDs on a city bus GarroHorus Jun 2012 #174
Whether it's TSA or private security guards... randome Jun 2012 #164
Really? We must live in two different countries because I have never, ever been accosted by sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #172
A bus stop? treestar Jun 2012 #63
It does not have to be interstate travel for TSA to be involved. See post #62 suffragette Jun 2012 #72
all of which involves interstate commerce treestar Jun 2012 #76
Houston buses aren't interstate. also see post # 75 with the Whitehouse including intercity buses suffragette Jun 2012 #77
It's allowed under the statute you cited in post 62 treestar Jun 2012 #82
It looks like it's happening in more places, which isn't surprising given the expansion of funding suffragette Jun 2012 #100
A Maine columnist wrote about this -- his daughter was ID'd on a bus mainer Jun 2012 #64
was he on the bus? at the bus stop? spanone Jun 2012 #65
The predictable response to new corporate, neocon, or police state outrages: woo me with science Jun 2012 #69
i'll not think this is any more than a bullshit post until there's FOLLOW UP! stlsaxman Jun 2012 #70
Cool Story. MineralMan Jun 2012 #71
It's also on their ABC local news. Additionally the Whitehouse has included intercity buses suffragette Jun 2012 #75
The WH is a CS theory site? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #85
Without any details beyond the solitary post, MineralMan Jun 2012 #91
Mantra Time demwing Jun 2012 #108
You said that already. Robb Jun 2012 #110
Generally, repeating a message twice isn't sufficient demwing Jun 2012 #115
Or just roll over and claim to be victims of a police state treestar Jun 2012 #113
There is no on/off switch to a police state demwing Jun 2012 #116
Well then admit it is well before the shit hits treestar Jun 2012 #119
not "well before" but yeah, you're right demwing Jun 2012 #121
It began after 911 treestar Jun 2012 #122
But Citizen's United was a step back demwing Jun 2012 #125
Those are two different things. randome Jun 2012 #128
I saw it happening near the Greyhound bus station in Houston on Friday night. texanwitch Jun 2012 #94
TSA patrols Burnside and Apple Valley transit (bus park & rides) in Minnesota in 2012 - source MVTA suffragette Jun 2012 #98
I love riddles! Robb Jun 2012 #86
Doesn't need to be inside an airport. They've been doing this since 2010 at least: sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #90
... Robb Jun 2012 #96
Aw, thanks for the reminder of the days when US Citizens sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #99
Good. Great idea. Even better than comic books. Robb Jun 2012 #101
So who has been unlawfully detained or arrested because of it? treestar Jun 2012 #114
The questions should be 'how many terrorists has the TSA stopped so far?' sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #134
Well, it would take just one more big terror attack to get people obsessed about it again treestar Jun 2012 #139
I remember that too and we knew that Bush was just using 9/11 to implement all these policies while sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #159
Wait! Was this a Greyhound Bus stop or a CITY/ TOWN bus stop? lookingfortruth Jun 2012 #93
I refuse to believe it, woo me with science Jun 2012 #102
+1 demwing Jun 2012 #104
By Jove, I think (s)he's got it. Fla_Democrat Jun 2012 #105
Just repeat the Litany Against Oppression demwing Jun 2012 #107
And while you're at it, repeat the GOP litany: malthaussen Jun 2012 #117
Or it's recent variation demwing Jun 2012 #120
Excellent! And if you do it long and faithfully enough, woo me with science Jun 2012 #131
The second verse goes like this :- kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #155
Nailed! whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #124
TSA Bus Stop checks - haele Jun 2012 #127
Where? tawadi Jun 2012 #144
And yet so many people (of all political bents)... PavePusher Jun 2012 #147
Wonder what would have happened if you said kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #152
Papers, please! nt tblue37 Jun 2012 #167
What would have happened if you told him to fuck off? Matariki Jun 2012 #176
Related thread - If you see something, Film something demwing Jun 2012 #177
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