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Egalitarian Thug

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26. This is whatever USA we determine to make it. If the President tried some of these things,

Sun Jun 17, 2012, 03:50 PM

Jun 2012

he certainly didn't try very hard as too few ever heard of it. If you define trying as floating an idea in a back room full of leadership types in DC, who knows?

If OTOH, you try to do something by clearly stating it in public over and over and then pushing out legislation while broadcasting that you are doing it and explicitly naming who is fighting it and who is not supporting it, well then even if you fail this time at least people know.

But I forgot, that isn't pragmatic.

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What's with the no New Deal? [View all] ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 OP

Every attempt to do such at the beginning of Obama's administration was shut down. And the Governor freshwest Jun 2012 #1

Yes, you're right, the attempt to scrub history ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #2

Obama tried some projects such as FDR implemented, CCC, WPA, etc. freshwest Jun 2012 #11

What were those projects? ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #31

They never really tried.. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #43

Well put! ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #48

True... sweetapogee Jun 2012 #64

Obama never tried projects like the CCC, WPA. former9thward Jun 2012 #46

It hasn't been answered ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #47

At the beginning he had a Dem House and Senate. Who are you blaming? Zax2me Jun 2012 #6

About that fillibuster proof majority myth. A link from Mother Jones: freshwest Jun 2012 #15

14 weeks = 98 days. Know what FDR did in 100 days? MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #17

This is not FDR's USA. Offer solutions that work in 2012. freshwest Jun 2012 #19

Same deal ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #32

FDR also had a Congress that was ~70% Democratic. TheWraith Jun 2012 #34

Yup. freshwest Jun 2012 #44

Which attempts were those? MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #10

Somehow you missed those years. I saw it as it unfolded and posted then. Briefly: freshwest Jun 2012 #20

There is a standing Executive Order banning WPA type programs signed by Reagan TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #56

State the standing executive order that says Congress has to fund it. freshwest Jun 2012 #57

Of course they don't have to fund it but you are arguing they were "fought for" TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jun 2012 #63

This is whatever USA we determine to make it. If the President tried some of these things, Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #26

So it's Obama's fault when people don't know what they're talking about? TheWraith Jun 2012 #38

No, it's his fault when he ignores people like Dr.'s Krugman and Stiglitz for years. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #42

Well put! ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #50

TY. Funny how these fools never seem to have an answer to these very basic principles. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #51

+1,000 freshwest Jun 2012 #45

Who are you talking about? ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #49

They really hate the working class Taverner Jun 2012 #60

And that Obama is the enemy of all. MInds are made up. EOM. freshwest Jun 2012 #61

Do you honesty think a "New Deal" WPA-like program could be passed in either chamber?? DCBob Jun 2012 #3

Let em try ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #4

Americans blast congress?? HA! DCBob Jun 2012 #8

Are you sure? ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #9

Yes. The Republicans will frame it as a huge wasteful Big Gov program. DCBob Jun 2012 #24

Fuck em ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #30

Brilliant strategy. DCBob Jun 2012 #37

You'd rather give up without trying ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #39

Focus on legislation that is realistic. DCBob Jun 2012 #40

Maybe not but it's needed ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #41

That isn't how the TeaPubliKlans moved the spectrum. TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #58

Its shocking how many people on this board "admire" Teaparty politics. DCBob Jun 2012 #65

I also will say your realistic tends away from effective and broadly beneficial TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #59

I agree--and timing IS everything at this point. Ship of Fools Jun 2012 #28

Blame an obstructionist republican led Congress liberal N proud Jun 2012 #5

So CongressDems just don't bother? ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #7

Obstructionism now comes in two different flavors kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #25

Rocky Road ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #36

They can only be blamed for obstruction when they have an opportunity to do so TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #12

well put! ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #14

Damn good point. nt MrTwister Jun 2012 #22

+1 leftstreet Jun 2012 #27

I get you! Like *threatening* to filibuster. Ship of Fools Jun 2012 #29

It's true that the RWingers ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #55

Well said Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #54

A WPA program would certainly help Democrats get elected because MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #13

Agreed. If this USA isn't the "FDR America", it should be whathehell Jun 2012 #21

Programs need money. Money comes from Congress. malthaussen Jun 2012 #16

WPA and CCC were awesome, special programs... Cooley Hurd Jun 2012 #18

I Started Talking About This... WiffenPoof Jun 2012 #23

About 1,000,000 people visit Boulder (Hoover) Dam every year. It is one of the Wonders of the World. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #33

There sure are and they are in the murals ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #35

It's been replaced by the Third Way "No Deal". Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #52

I'll hafta google ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #53