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Why arent Animal Rights ever an issue in presidential politics? [View all] retrowire Oct 2016 OP

Because humanity comes first. MicaelS Oct 2016 #1

But ehat about my points in which Animal Rights affect humanity? nt retrowire Oct 2016 #8

Not interested. MicaelS Oct 2016 #62

That's such a callous attitude athena Oct 2016 #94

Because animals don't vote, is my guess. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #2

+1000 Agnosticsherbet Oct 2016 #7

they don't financially support campaigns gopiscrap Oct 2016 #103

There's just not enough time Renew Deal Oct 2016 #3

Good idea, that would be a curveball retrowire Oct 2016 #9

Hillary: Detailed Answer. Trump: "Animals. We love animals. We love animals that have breasts." Renew Deal Oct 2016 #20

So, Donald loves mammals then. geardaddy Oct 2016 #79

I would consider it progress if women's rights were an issue in presidential politics Orrex Oct 2016 #4

They were bringing up womens right to choose in thr VP debate the other night. retrowire Oct 2016 #10

Yes, and it was big news that women's rights were mentioned at all Orrex Oct 2016 #15

Hey! neither issue is a waste. retrowire Oct 2016 #17

Sorry to break the news to you, then. Orrex Oct 2016 #22

its still not a waste and I resent that comment. retrowire Oct 2016 #24

Well, you seemed more reasonable about it downthread Orrex Oct 2016 #49

you made that point already i get it lol nt retrowire Oct 2016 #52

It's not until animals vote in large numbers...it's until people do ! Cakes488 Oct 2016 #45

It's not that simple Orrex Oct 2016 #53

When pressing this issue, much is accomplished at the local level. Cakes488 Oct 2016 #58

That was a euphemism Orrex Oct 2016 #68

Well here's a nice link you'll like then. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #14

Because most Americans eat them SHRED Oct 2016 #5

My vegan heart understands this as humor. retrowire Oct 2016 #16

Some we call "pets"... SHRED Oct 2016 #34

Have you ever lived in America? CBGLuthier Oct 2016 #6

Lived here all my life. retrowire Oct 2016 #12

One of America's greatest advocates for animals was Teddy Roosevelt... Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #80

i dunno. i could work with him. nt retrowire Oct 2016 #81

John Muir, who abhored hunting, did work with TR, even camping together... Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #85

au contraire buddy, Do your research. Not a MAJOR issue perhaps, but here's something for you ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #11

Thank you! retrowire Oct 2016 #13

Debates have limited time and they have to hit on the issues voters value most ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #21

The Humane Society has an anti-Trump ad video ! ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #92

That's a great ad! athena Oct 2016 #96

What, exactly, do you want them to say? Orrex Oct 2016 #18

I see what youre saying. retrowire Oct 2016 #19

In a word, yes. Orrex Oct 2016 #23

by the way, if you're an animal rights activist and you want to be effective, ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #25

I am an animal rights advocate retrowire Oct 2016 #27

Book about Vegan diet you might find helpful ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #64

People are responsible for their own actions. athena Oct 2016 #97

So for you it's about responsibility, not about helping the animals? Fair enough. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #98

It is not possible to change someone else's views. athena Oct 2016 #100

Societal priorities. Not saying it's right but it is what it is. NCTraveler Oct 2016 #26

I'm happy with her platform as well. retrowire Oct 2016 #29

I really wish it was discussed more on the stump. NCTraveler Oct 2016 #33

Totally agree! retrowire Oct 2016 #40

We have argued a bit. We have also agreed more. NCTraveler Oct 2016 #47

Aww thats the first time I've felt any friendliness retrowire Oct 2016 #48

If you're talking about PETA... MicaelS Oct 2016 #88

OK. Seems you can only think of one group. NCTraveler Oct 2016 #89

It's called Human Decency. Iggo Oct 2016 #28

facepalm. nt retrowire Oct 2016 #31

rimshot. nt Iggo Oct 2016 #38

What, exactly, is "called Human Decency"? sammythecat Oct 2016 #111

The thing that's referred to in the OP as "Animal Rights." Iggo Oct 2016 #112

Ah! My apologies Iggo. sammythecat Oct 2016 #115

Well, that is a good question because they should be. Beginning with the using of animals in labs EV_Ares Oct 2016 #30

If you abuse animals you will abuse people. Cakes488 Oct 2016 #59

Because Household Pets Don't Vote! BKH70041 Oct 2016 #32

If they did, I suspect they would heavily support the no-forced-sterilization lobby Major Nikon Oct 2016 #57

Donald Trump hates dogs!!! blue cat Oct 2016 #35

Yes! And he wants to eliminate regulations on pet food ingredients. Sicko. femmocrat Oct 2016 #51

Well his kid(s) hunt big cats and such in Africa. There are photos online. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #99

It's a fringe issue at best....that falls way down the list beachbumbob Oct 2016 #36

Huh? Remember this... jberryhill Oct 2016 #37

Because not enough people care and not enough get involved Cakes488 Oct 2016 #39

Rally for NO KILL October 8th NYC Columbus Circle/Central Park 1-5 Cakes488 Oct 2016 #41

I may be vegan retrowire Oct 2016 #44

NO KILL is already happening at municipal shelters across the country. Cakes488 Oct 2016 #50

oh so NO KILL is more about animal shelters? nt retrowire Oct 2016 #54

Yes it's about our companion animals at shelters only...a Total NO KILL nation would be a Cakes488 Oct 2016 #55

Oh well that I can totally get behind! :) nt retrowire Oct 2016 #56

I don't think animals have rights. aikoaiko Oct 2016 #42

Agreed. Iggo Oct 2016 #43

youre right. but they should have a little more rights. nt retrowire Oct 2016 #46

Rights must be reciprocal Loki Liesmith Oct 2016 #63

I guess I'm using the terminology interchangeably. retrowire Oct 2016 #65

Fair enough Loki Liesmith Oct 2016 #73

I bet you are glad you weren't born an animal then..even though humans are animals. Cakes488 Oct 2016 #60

Yes I am. Although if I had been born a non-human animal, I wouldn't know... aikoaiko Oct 2016 #83

So that makes it OK because "they don't know". Well we do know and we should know better! Cakes488 Oct 2016 #87

Make what ok? aikoaiko Oct 2016 #90

Animals don't have legal standing Loki Liesmith Oct 2016 #61

Because it's not a point of contention between Republicans and Democrats. Nye Bevan Oct 2016 #66

Thats an interesting angle. true nt retrowire Oct 2016 #67

What election have you been watching? TXCritter Oct 2016 #69

Ive been watching this election and yes. nt retrowire Oct 2016 #70

There is more issues in this at the state level. michaz Oct 2016 #71

I recall that you work in the industry that processes chickens? cwydro Oct 2016 #72

I do not. retrowire Oct 2016 #78

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What is a right? TXCritter Oct 2016 #77

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THIS ad won't cure the problem but it will help! napi21 Oct 2016 #76

Thank you for posting that ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #91

we barely have Human Rights as an issue 0rganism Oct 2016 #82

I hope my comments will be seen as useful. The short answer: Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #84

Wouldn't it be local politics treestar Oct 2016 #86

Animal Rights, melm00se Oct 2016 #93

Because the vast majority of people still have major cognitive dissonance on this issue. athena Oct 2016 #95

It has little to do with Vegan choices. Egnever Oct 2016 #101

It is an observation, not a projection. athena Oct 2016 #104

And again with the projection Egnever Oct 2016 #106

The issue with vegan / vegetarianism MicaelS Oct 2016 #102

oh this vegan knows retrowire Oct 2016 #107

Right. All you have to say is, "Is this dish vegetarian?" athena Oct 2016 #108

oh my god i know the feeling. retrowire Oct 2016 #110

Last time someone made a stupid anti-vegetarian comment to me I threw my arms up... JanMichael Oct 2016 #114

Climate Change is barely an issue. milestogo Oct 2016 #105

Because it would be rude to point out that some poor animal died on Trump's head mythology Oct 2016 #109

Because the Bible says we have dominion over them. robertpaulsen Oct 2016 #113