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world wide wally

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33. Assume you keep the Senate at 2 per state.

Thu Oct 6, 2016, 03:04 PM

Oct 2016

How does that make representation in the house fair?

And the other form of obstruction is the filibuster. It is far too easy for one single Senator to block something 59 Senators may favor by simply filling out a form.
No wonder Congress is so dysfunctional . To top it all off, their approval rating is in single digits and yet incumbents win 95% of the time.
And while we're at it, Texas gets to rewrite our history textbooks because they have a large proportion of school age children (sales = profit... Texas = Republican)

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At this point, I think I'm in favor of the balkanization of the US. [View all] DanTex Oct 2016 OP

If you look at the county by county electoral map citood Oct 2016 #1

Yep. Look at the big cities in TX. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #58

You know in Dallas county it is like 55% dem vs 45% repuke right? snooper2 Oct 2016 #2

Yes, I do. And I also know my old hometown of Austin would get screwed in the deal. DanTex Oct 2016 #5

As much as I like that idea angrychair Oct 2016 #3

Regarding the subject of the OP, re: Balkanization - I think if we actually became Aristus Oct 2016 #26

Naw--the Olympic Pennensula is red as well ismnotwasm Oct 2016 #67

They weren't so cut and dried in the Balkans, either. Igel Oct 2016 #59

One of our biggest problems is the lack of equality in our representation world wide wally Oct 2016 #4

It's not suppose to be equal NobodyHere Oct 2016 #6

That's a shame world wide wally Oct 2016 #8

No its not. former9thward Oct 2016 #10

So you're in favor of unequal representation? Seriously? DanTex Oct 2016 #12

That's what the House is for Dan R.A. Ganoush Oct 2016 #13

Yup, genius to under-represent people in Queens and over-represent people in Wyoming. DanTex Oct 2016 #17

How is that though when NY has more representation R.A. Ganoush Oct 2016 #21

Because there are more people in NY. DanTex Oct 2016 #23

This is simple arithmetic, not rocket surgery. TransitJohn Oct 2016 #74

Then convince the people of Wyoming they shouldn't get a say. ileus Oct 2016 #30

They should get a say. The same amount of say as people in Queens. DanTex Oct 2016 #32

Oh my..... yeoman6987 Oct 2016 #35

That's nonsense. The census taken every decade determines the apportionment of congress persons. cleanhippie Oct 2016 #48

Are you actually claiming that Congress works? As a concept, as a fact? Really? CBGLuthier Oct 2016 #40

Do you have a point aside from your opinion? R.A. Ganoush Oct 2016 #45

wrong. not for 200 or 230 years. it broke in 1860ish. nt. JanMichael Oct 2016 #47

So if you get you way.. MicaelS Oct 2016 #18

Good point. We probably shouldn't have senators at all. DanTex Oct 2016 #19

Did you read what I wrote? MicaelS Oct 2016 #29

Of course you like the system the way it is. It serves your interests. DanTex Oct 2016 #31

Stop with the bs, please. Each population bloc of approx 700k people gets one representative. cleanhippie Oct 2016 #49

Apparently you've never heard of the Senate. Figures. DanTex Oct 2016 #56

The senate has nothing to do with population and everything to do with State representation. cleanhippie Oct 2016 #60

Funny that people are coming out of the gungeon to defend a system that underrepresents minorities. DanTex Oct 2016 #64

Keep telling yourself that. cleanhippie Oct 2016 #68

Assume you keep the Senate at 2 per state. world wide wally Oct 2016 #33

Yup, that's a huge problem. DanTex Oct 2016 #9

Then your math is wrong. cleanhippie Oct 2016 #50

That link verifies my math. Thanks for posting! DanTex Oct 2016 #57

You can tell yourself whatever makes you feel good about yourself. cleanhippie Oct 2016 #61

The fact is people in Wyoming have close to 40x as many senators per capita DanTex Oct 2016 #65

Senators aren't apportioned per capita, duh! cleanhippie Oct 2016 #69

LOL. Yes, that is exactly the problem. It's unequal representation. DanTex Oct 2016 #70

FFS,that's why we have the House of Representatives. cleanhippie Oct 2016 #72

LOL. Wouldn't want to have too much equality, would we? DanTex Oct 2016 #73

The reason the Senate is divided the way it is is to make sure Exilednight Oct 2016 #15

Overrepresenting the interests of Rural states and regions is what keeps America in constant crisis maxsolomon Oct 2016 #39

And that's why you have the HOR. The number of house seats is based Exilednight Oct 2016 #41

No, I complain about the Senate then, as well. maxsolomon Oct 2016 #42

PR will never become a state. They don't want to pay personal income tax. Exilednight Oct 2016 #43

On thing that should be done is the repeal of Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929... Humanist_Activist Oct 2016 #25

It's all moving our direction. Codeine Oct 2016 #7

What? former9thward Oct 2016 #11

A rational mind realizes both premises may validly exist simultaneously. LanternWaste Oct 2016 #14

People blur the Presidency with actual governing. bluesbassman Oct 2016 #20

Demographics are demographics. Codeine Oct 2016 #36

If demographics are demographics then we should be gaining seats not losing them. former9thward Oct 2016 #37

And Hillary is going to be up for reelection in 2020. Calista241 Oct 2016 #71

No state budget alone can pay for all we get from the federal government. upaloopa Oct 2016 #16

Well, I wouldn't mind if my county became a state. ananda Oct 2016 #22

+1 ! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #34

So, where do Iowa and North Carolina fit in? geek tragedy Oct 2016 #24

Good questions. I don't have the answers. But I'm sick of being held back by the GOP. DanTex Oct 2016 #27

No. I want it all!! JoePhilly Oct 2016 #28

States are not monolithic structures with every body stamped from a mold. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2016 #38

Just be sure to get those nukes out of the Red states first. baldguy Oct 2016 #44

I'm not ready to give up on the republic. roamer65 Oct 2016 #46

No thanks eleny Oct 2016 #51

I think your state-by-state idea is excellent. As for those who prefer the county-by-county one, Cal33 Oct 2016 #52

Perhaps the South should've won Matrosov Oct 2016 #53

This is one of the more dumb things I've heard being discussed here. icymist Oct 2016 #54

Nah. Just redraw. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #55

Apparently Jesusland includes Communist, leftist, atheist, anti-American Hollywood too... n/t alp227 Oct 2016 #62

Yes. Like many places it would be an enclave surrounded by rightist dominionist uber-Americans. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #63

Pollution knows no boundaries Martin Eden Oct 2016 #66

I would split if we could make sure we keep our money Fluke a Snooker Oct 2016 #75