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athena

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108. Right. All you have to say is, "Is this dish vegetarian?"
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:49 AM
Oct 2016

That's all it took the last time I was at a gathering. Suddenly I was bombarded from all sides with questions about whether one can get enough protein, iron, you name it, on a vegan diet, and I had to endure comments about the supposed danger of raising kids on a vegan diet (no one in the group had small kids) and the supposed dogmatism of vegans. It didn't turn ugly, but later, I was pretty annoyed that I had been forced to talk about something I had zero interest in discussing. It's really stressful to have to talk to meat-eaters about vegetarianism, knowing how touchy they tend to be.

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Because humanity comes first. MicaelS Oct 2016 #1
But ehat about my points in which Animal Rights affect humanity? nt retrowire Oct 2016 #8
Not interested. MicaelS Oct 2016 #62
That's such a callous attitude athena Oct 2016 #94
Because animals don't vote, is my guess. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #2
+1000 Agnosticsherbet Oct 2016 #7
they don't financially support campaigns gopiscrap Oct 2016 #103
There's just not enough time Renew Deal Oct 2016 #3
Good idea, that would be a curveball retrowire Oct 2016 #9
Hillary: Detailed Answer. Trump: "Animals. We love animals. We love animals that have breasts." Renew Deal Oct 2016 #20
So, Donald loves mammals then. geardaddy Oct 2016 #79
I would consider it progress if women's rights were an issue in presidential politics Orrex Oct 2016 #4
They were bringing up womens right to choose in thr VP debate the other night. retrowire Oct 2016 #10
Yes, and it was big news that women's rights were mentioned at all Orrex Oct 2016 #15
Hey! neither issue is a waste. retrowire Oct 2016 #17
Sorry to break the news to you, then. Orrex Oct 2016 #22
its still not a waste and I resent that comment. retrowire Oct 2016 #24
Well, you seemed more reasonable about it downthread Orrex Oct 2016 #49
you made that point already i get it lol nt retrowire Oct 2016 #52
It's not until animals vote in large numbers...it's until people do ! Cakes488 Oct 2016 #45
It's not that simple Orrex Oct 2016 #53
When pressing this issue, much is accomplished at the local level. Cakes488 Oct 2016 #58
That was a euphemism Orrex Oct 2016 #68
Well here's a nice link you'll like then. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #14
Because most Americans eat them SHRED Oct 2016 #5
My vegan heart understands this as humor. retrowire Oct 2016 #16
Some we call "pets"... SHRED Oct 2016 #34
Have you ever lived in America? CBGLuthier Oct 2016 #6
Lived here all my life. retrowire Oct 2016 #12
One of America's greatest advocates for animals was Teddy Roosevelt... Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #80
i dunno. i could work with him. nt retrowire Oct 2016 #81
John Muir, who abhored hunting, did work with TR, even camping together... Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #85
au contraire buddy, Do your research. Not a MAJOR issue perhaps, but here's something for you ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #11
Thank you! retrowire Oct 2016 #13
Debates have limited time and they have to hit on the issues voters value most ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #21
The Humane Society has an anti-Trump ad video ! ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #92
That's a great ad! athena Oct 2016 #96
What, exactly, do you want them to say? Orrex Oct 2016 #18
I see what youre saying. retrowire Oct 2016 #19
In a word, yes. Orrex Oct 2016 #23
by the way, if you're an animal rights activist and you want to be effective, ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #25
I am an animal rights advocate retrowire Oct 2016 #27
Book about Vegan diet you might find helpful ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #64
People are responsible for their own actions. athena Oct 2016 #97
So for you it's about responsibility, not about helping the animals? Fair enough. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #98
It is not possible to change someone else's views. athena Oct 2016 #100
Societal priorities. Not saying it's right but it is what it is. NCTraveler Oct 2016 #26
I'm happy with her platform as well. retrowire Oct 2016 #29
I really wish it was discussed more on the stump. NCTraveler Oct 2016 #33
Totally agree! retrowire Oct 2016 #40
We have argued a bit. We have also agreed more. NCTraveler Oct 2016 #47
Aww thats the first time I've felt any friendliness retrowire Oct 2016 #48
If you're talking about PETA... MicaelS Oct 2016 #88
OK. Seems you can only think of one group. NCTraveler Oct 2016 #89
It's called Human Decency. Iggo Oct 2016 #28
facepalm. nt retrowire Oct 2016 #31
rimshot. nt Iggo Oct 2016 #38
What, exactly, is "called Human Decency"? sammythecat Oct 2016 #111
The thing that's referred to in the OP as "Animal Rights." Iggo Oct 2016 #112
Ah! My apologies Iggo. sammythecat Oct 2016 #115
Well, that is a good question because they should be. Beginning with the using of animals in labs EV_Ares Oct 2016 #30
If you abuse animals you will abuse people. Cakes488 Oct 2016 #59
Because Household Pets Don't Vote! BKH70041 Oct 2016 #32
If they did, I suspect they would heavily support the no-forced-sterilization lobby Major Nikon Oct 2016 #57
Donald Trump hates dogs!!! blue cat Oct 2016 #35
Yes! And he wants to eliminate regulations on pet food ingredients. Sicko. femmocrat Oct 2016 #51
Well his kid(s) hunt big cats and such in Africa. There are photos online. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #99
It's a fringe issue at best....that falls way down the list beachbumbob Oct 2016 #36
Huh? Remember this... jberryhill Oct 2016 #37
Because not enough people care and not enough get involved Cakes488 Oct 2016 #39
Rally for NO KILL October 8th NYC Columbus Circle/Central Park 1-5 Cakes488 Oct 2016 #41
I may be vegan retrowire Oct 2016 #44
NO KILL is already happening at municipal shelters across the country. Cakes488 Oct 2016 #50
oh so NO KILL is more about animal shelters? nt retrowire Oct 2016 #54
Yes it's about our companion animals at shelters only...a Total NO KILL nation would be a Cakes488 Oct 2016 #55
Oh well that I can totally get behind! :) nt retrowire Oct 2016 #56
I don't think animals have rights. aikoaiko Oct 2016 #42
Agreed. Iggo Oct 2016 #43
youre right. but they should have a little more rights. nt retrowire Oct 2016 #46
Rights must be reciprocal Loki Liesmith Oct 2016 #63
I guess I'm using the terminology interchangeably. retrowire Oct 2016 #65
Fair enough Loki Liesmith Oct 2016 #73
I bet you are glad you weren't born an animal then..even though humans are animals. Cakes488 Oct 2016 #60
Yes I am. Although if I had been born a non-human animal, I wouldn't know... aikoaiko Oct 2016 #83
So that makes it OK because "they don't know". Well we do know and we should know better! Cakes488 Oct 2016 #87
Make what ok? aikoaiko Oct 2016 #90
Animals don't have legal standing Loki Liesmith Oct 2016 #61
Because it's not a point of contention between Republicans and Democrats. Nye Bevan Oct 2016 #66
Thats an interesting angle. true nt retrowire Oct 2016 #67
What election have you been watching? TXCritter Oct 2016 #69
Ive been watching this election and yes. nt retrowire Oct 2016 #70
There is more issues in this at the state level. michaz Oct 2016 #71
I recall that you work in the industry that processes chickens? cwydro Oct 2016 #72
I do not. retrowire Oct 2016 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Oct 2016 #74
What is a right? TXCritter Oct 2016 #77
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2016 #75
THIS ad won't cure the problem but it will help! napi21 Oct 2016 #76
Thank you for posting that ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #91
we barely have Human Rights as an issue 0rganism Oct 2016 #82
I hope my comments will be seen as useful. The short answer: Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #84
Wouldn't it be local politics treestar Oct 2016 #86
Animal Rights, melm00se Oct 2016 #93
Because the vast majority of people still have major cognitive dissonance on this issue. athena Oct 2016 #95
It has little to do with Vegan choices. Egnever Oct 2016 #101
It is an observation, not a projection. athena Oct 2016 #104
And again with the projection Egnever Oct 2016 #106
The issue with vegan / vegetarianism MicaelS Oct 2016 #102
oh this vegan knows retrowire Oct 2016 #107
Right. All you have to say is, "Is this dish vegetarian?" athena Oct 2016 #108
oh my god i know the feeling. retrowire Oct 2016 #110
Last time someone made a stupid anti-vegetarian comment to me I threw my arms up... JanMichael Oct 2016 #114
Climate Change is barely an issue. milestogo Oct 2016 #105
Because it would be rude to point out that some poor animal died on Trump's head mythology Oct 2016 #109
Because the Bible says we have dominion over them. robertpaulsen Oct 2016 #113
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