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187. If the sky was orange, would it taste like Kool-Aid?

Sun Jun 17, 2012, 08:59 PM

Jun 2012

And if this country wasn't steeped in the stew of white supremacy for so long and so deeply that it took over 200 years for the first non-white person to become elected president, would it be this hard for said first non-white president to get ANYTHING done?

What part of "stop operating in ifs" do you not understand? And in all honesty, your question is beyond idiotic. When has there EVER been "sweetness and light and bipartisan cooperation and significant legislative achievements?" in politics outside of a major national catastrophe? And when has a president ever had to endure being told that he's lying during a SoTU, been interrupted during an official policy briefing and had to fight this hard with members of his OWN PARTY? The fact that you have to reach so far and so deep into the muck to keep your "point" going is so profoundly ignorant it's almost sad.

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First African American President [View all] Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 OP

Truth will out malaise Jun 2012 #1

But he needs to get tough. Ban the Reporter AND whoever he works for from any Booster Jun 2012 #2

agree brettdale Jun 2012 #3

So they can add the accusation of Angry Black Man to the already lunatica Jun 2012 #22

If the same outlet did it again, Obama would look like a weak, pathetic chump. Marr Jun 2012 #34

Not to me. lunatica Jun 2012 #134

I agree. Avoid the "angry black man" mantra at all costs.. he's doing the right thing secondwind Jun 2012 #146

Why do we create these silly rules for ourselves that put us at a disadvantage? rucky Jun 2012 #174

Ban his news organization. toddwv Jun 2012 #148

- First President to have someone throw a shoe at him at a press conference. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #4

That was and Iraqi journalist. Not American. Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #6

OK, I edited my post to remove the part where I said it was an American, and that it took place Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #8

That was not about race at all. Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #11

Ah, now there's my point. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #15

But it is racism. lunatica Jun 2012 #24

Agree. Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #25

indeed. + quite a bit. cali Jun 2012 #100

Repetition = proof. 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #136

Completely wrong. Zoeisright Jun 2012 #58

Why did they impeach Bill Clinton? Did they hate white people from Arkansas? Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #72

Because he left a trail of behavior loyalsister Jun 2012 #81

well said. cali Jun 2012 #101

Initiating a legal process (impeachment, even if for stupid reasons) against Clinton NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #92

+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - Well put and definitely coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #98

+1000 Thank you. The fact that some here need to have that explained to them Number23 Jun 2012 #160

It amazes me how butterfly77 Jun 2012 #164

I have long suspected that many of the folks who go out of their way to dismiss, minimize Number23 Jun 2012 #165

Bill Clinton brought that on himself treestar Jun 2012 #105

+1 nt Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #129

And denying that racism is at the root of the disrespectful behavior makes you an enabler. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #87

I understand where you are coming from but I disagree. I think the Repigs coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #97

don't fool yourself spanone Jun 2012 #120

Facts Number23 Jun 2012 #159

Is everyone who dislikes Obama's policies a racist? Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #166

Yes. But only an enabling idiot with a deep and profound sense of denial Number23 Jun 2012 #167

So if Joe Biden had been President instead of Obama, Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #168

There is a saying, "if grandma had balls, she'd be grandpa" Number23 Jun 2012 #170

That's a long finger-wagging lecture, but you didn't answer my question. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #172

If the sky was orange, would it taste like Kool-Aid? Number23 Jun 2012 #187

Feeling sorry for the Shrub? freshwest Jun 2012 #9

Oops. I outed myself. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #12

or himself nt NoGOPZone Jun 2012 #57

Nailed it. Number23 Jun 2012 #161

I wouldn't dishoner the Office of the President by throwing a shoe at him ... Martin Eden Jun 2012 #10

Wasnt an American who did that brettdale Jun 2012 #17

NOT a press conference in the U.S. maddiemom Jun 2012 #21

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #28

Well, I am enthusiastic enough about Obama to be a Star Member of DU. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #33

That's right. Noooo racism involved. At all. Nope, no sir, no how! Scootaloo Jun 2012 #29

And maybe the fact that someone always comes up with some BS like this means Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #30

excuses, excuses,excuses heaven05 Jun 2012 #56

Welcome to DU! (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #74

That's a standard right-wing rebuttal. toddwv Jun 2012 #149

It's an utter disgrace! A DISGRACE! And in my opinion it's NO coincidence whatsoever. calimary Jun 2012 #5

+1 LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #7

Well said. Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #14

I agree. lunatica Jun 2012 #26

+1. But sadly it's not just teabaggers, and I'll just leave it at that. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #89

Absolutely treestar Jun 2012 #106

Where Mitt Romney was born is what matters SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #182

Then you haven't tangled with the birther element treestar Jun 2012 #185

Agreed. And amazing patience and forbearance from AA's. freshwest Jun 2012 #13

+1 It's fucking crazy. Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #16

where are the right wing commentators? brettdale Jun 2012 #18

There's a post floating around GD... Mike_Valentine Jun 2012 #102

Can people please get off their lazy asses and stop referring to us as a couple of letters? progress2k12nbynd Jun 2012 #19

k/r emilyg Jun 2012 #20

DUzy lame54 Jun 2012 #131

This comment ProSense Jun 2012 #23

LOL! That was exactly my objection to this moniker when it first raised it's ugly, Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #27

Here's the thing: ProSense Jun 2012 #32

You're absolutely right, it's not. OTOH absurdly inaccurate and nondescriptive labels isn't going to Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #85

The term ProSense Jun 2012 #86

Once again, I'm confused. That's exactly the point I'm trying to make. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #95

As a darker American you cannot feel empathy for another darker American??? curious_citizen Jun 2012 #36

Welcome to DU. kwassa Jun 2012 #169

I believe that it is the currently accepted way to refer to black people treestar Jun 2012 #107

?? I agree babylonsister Jun 2012 #155

This is the dumbest, most nonsensical post I have ever seen here Number23 Jun 2012 #163

Obama is the author of many of his problems. SylviaD Jun 2012 #31

so does this jerk Munro brettdale Jun 2012 #35

Sorry, not buying. tabatha Jun 2012 #37

No he is not wishy-washy treestar Jun 2012 #109

Bunk. Do you remember the reprehensible way they treated Clinton? n/t SylviaD Jun 2012 #121

They did not treat Clinton like this treestar Jun 2012 #123

They didn't demand his BC? That is supposed to show what? Vattel Jun 2012 #132

Of course it does treestar Jun 2012 #133

GWB's limo was pelted with eggs on the day of his inauguration. Flatulo Jun 2012 #38

Despicable anti-Texas prejudice. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #40

That was because he stole the election. roody Jun 2012 #84

No see, that was entirely different RZM Jun 2012 #42

We're talking about reporters in the WH press corps... CJCRANE Jun 2012 #126

By the WH press corp? ProSense Jun 2012 #43

GWB was a clown treestar Jun 2012 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Jun 2012 #127

Obama wasn't 'forced' to show his birth certificate RZM Jun 2012 #39

He played that perfectly. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #41

Pretty much RZM Jun 2012 #45

Yeah, ProSense Jun 2012 #44

Yes I do, because even before he released it, only 17 percent bought it RZM Jun 2012 #47

Good grief ProSense Jun 2012 #52

It was a gift RZM Jun 2012 #59

Bullshit ProSense Jun 2012 #60

Are you sure about that? RZM Jun 2012 #65

What? ProSense Jun 2012 #67

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #68

So ProSense Jun 2012 #73

No links? That seems out of character RZM Jun 2012 #76

Wait ProSense Jun 2012 #79

Candidate's family members are the closest of surrogates. Matt Romney, age 40 at an official Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #175

Not releasing it was not only an option, it was the BEST option. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2012 #48

The demand to see one was never made before treestar Jun 2012 #111

I think it entirely possible this was politically motivated, not racially motivated. Skip Intro Jun 2012 #46

Herman Cain was leading in the Republican primary polls Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #49

You can't be serious? n/t ProSense Jun 2012 #54

Oh, there was some kinda weird racsim going on there, if I remember correctly. Skip Intro Jun 2012 #61

Herman Cain ProSense Jun 2012 #64

The whole reason Rs allegedly supported him was about his race! treestar Jun 2012 #113

I don't ProSense Jun 2012 #51

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. nt Skip Intro Jun 2012 #53

And sometimes cliches don't work. n/t ProSense Jun 2012 #55

And sometimes knee-jerk accusations don't work. nt Skip Intro Jun 2012 #62

Yeah, ProSense Jun 2012 #66

And sometimes it just isn't there. Skip Intro Jun 2012 #69

Maybe ProSense Jun 2012 #77

Right. Skip Intro Jun 2012 #80

So ProSense Jun 2012 #82

Perhaps it is my vivid memories of how they treated Bill Clinton. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #70

Indeed. nt Skip Intro Jun 2012 #71

Poor Bill ProSense Jun 2012 #75

"They treat a lot of Democrats badly". Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #78

Well, ProSense Jun 2012 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #99

Agreed Inkfreak Jun 2012 #103

No matter what political issues there were before treestar Jun 2012 #112

McCain was just a candidate, not President, but some factions did make a stink about his bith in Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #177

Wn didn't they make such a declaration for Obama? treestar Jun 2012 #178

Yes, Racism I can't see this happening to a white President SoutherDem Jun 2012 #50

A lot of -ism's are still alive and well in America bigwillq Jun 2012 #63

so I guess I am the first hfojvt Jun 2012 #88

You're right. I thought it was the SOTU. I'll edit my post. Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #96

Ok good catch treestar Jun 2012 #114

The guy sitting in on Ed Show brought this up. Left Coast2020 Jun 2012 #90

Dragging Clinton through the Monica Lewinsky trial seems worse. dkf Jun 2012 #93

you left out this - Zax2me Jun 2012 #94

K&R treestar Jun 2012 #104

If President Obama Actually Stood Up and fought Back BDPubsSameSame Jun 2012 #108

Why should he have to? treestar Jun 2012 #115

for what it's worth, this one has been banned OKNancy Jun 2012 #116

Now we see a post below where the banned treestar Jun 2012 #118

How Rovian. emulatorloo Jun 2012 #152

A poll was released this week saying basically the same thing KatChatter Jun 2012 #117

the racists are crawling out of the woodwork spanone Jun 2012 #119

First president to be compared to hitler 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #122

We're talking about the protocol of people in official positions... CJCRANE Jun 2012 #128

This particular rule was implied 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #135

Sam Donaldson's comment was a joke which Bush took in kind CJCRANE Jun 2012 #138

A reporter isn't an official 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #140

We're talking about two different things. CJCRANE Jun 2012 #142

The OP certainly makes the case that this is unique 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #143

I think this incident may be more related to the general breakdown in civility Flatulo Jun 2012 #124

K&R suffragette Jun 2012 #125

And the treatment of AG Holder this week cilla4progress Jun 2012 #130

Pure. Unadulerated. Reeking. Racism. BumRushDaShow Jun 2012 #137

Oh, please. Zax2me Jun 2012 #141

Enough. BumRushDaShow Jun 2012 #162

The president is Kenyan-American. The term African-American describes RB TexLa Jun 2012 #139

See Obama's bio Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #144

Yes, that would be incorrect usage of that term. RB TexLa Jun 2012 #145

This definition makes sense to me: CJCRANE Jun 2012 #151

But you do know President Obama's heritage. I understand the term's definition has evolved to mean RB TexLa Jun 2012 #158

He's both. CJCRANE Jun 2012 #186

AND all this disrespect has come from middle-aged white people. jillan Jun 2012 #147

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #150

I have said it before and I say it again Wolf Frankula Jun 2012 #153

The leadership of the Repugnants will use whatever works, period. Dustlawyer Jun 2012 #154

first Democratic president since Clinton Enrique Jun 2012 #156

Without reading through every post on the thread... RevStPatrick Jun 2012 #157

rofl Some of you still want to deny this level of disrespect and breech of protocol isn't racism. Happydayz Jun 2012 #171

I thought impeaching the President for a blowjob was kind of unprecedented (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #173

Clinton brought all of that on himself Happydayz Jun 2012 #180

I'm not denying that the man has been mightily disrespected. RevStPatrick Jun 2012 #176

Please, those pics of Bush being compared to a chimp aren't racist Happydayz Jun 2012 #179

How do you know he's a racist? Maybe he's just an asshole. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #181

Exactly. Thanks, Nye. RevStPatrick Jun 2012 #184

This is by far the most disrespectfully a President has been treated, face to face, in my lifetime SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #183