Honest question

[athena]

7. They sound like misogynists.

I agree with the previous poster who said that there is nothing you can say that will change these people's minds. Misogyny means blaming everything on the woman. This way of thinking used to be much more prevalent: if a man raped a woman, the problem was that she had led him on; if a man abused his wife, the problem was that she had disobeyed him and driven him mad. While few people are that extreme today, many people still have a tendency to blame the woman whenever there is a problem. When someone hears Donald Trump's voice and words on that tape and, instead of feeling sick to their stomach, responds by blaming Hillary Clinton through some sort of tortured logic, they are intent on hating Clinton regardless of the facts. I doubt there is anything you can do that will make them see reason.

I'm very sorry that you have to put up with such misogynists.