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xocet

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45. "dominant political faction" ...

Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:34 AM

Oct 2016

To understand what is being discussed, one must first ask the following question: What "factions" are there?

Political "Factions" (from least to greatest approximately):
Greens
Libertarians
Independents
"Establishment" Republicans
Teabaggers/Teaparty Republicans
Trump Republicans/ Trump Supporters
Democrats

There is an important schism in the Republican Party - it is split between Trump supporters, Teabaggers (there is some overlap here though) and "establishment" Republicans. That schism is what will hopefully be in full effect during the upcoming election. On the other hand, if one considers elected members of the Democratic Party, they are generally unified in approximate policy goals. That unification seems to be what the meaning of "dominant faction" is. The confusion arises from conflating holding a majority in Congress with being politically unified.

As to your remark on Greenwald, maybe it is true - maybe it is not true. It is beside the point. Can you address the substance of what he has written or do you have nothing to say on that topic?

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I said it way back when..... nt MADem Oct 2016 #1

That's much more polite than the "I fucking told you so," OP I was going to post. nt msanthrope Oct 2016 #48

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't kinda thinking on those lines--LOL!!! nt MADem Oct 2016 #49

Well smoking gun, WikiLeaks Russian propaganda srm Foggyhill Oct 2016 #2

it's either direct collusion or Loki Liesmith Oct 2016 #3

Trump Tower probably has a Cold War era teletype machine that receives news feeds from the Kremlin. Chiyo-chichi Oct 2016 #20

KNR Lucinda Oct 2016 #4

There is this 800 million dollar ivestment in the Trump Property Wellstone ruled Oct 2016 #5

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Appears the Russian hacks are about to get interesting. Wellstone ruled Oct 2016 #13

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Believe the Feds are Wellstone ruled Oct 2016 #51

hearings? DK504 Oct 2016 #53

Reference the last sentence - that's easy Dan Oct 2016 #6

Just got chills when I read this article Pachamama Oct 2016 #7

K&R! herding cats Oct 2016 #8

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It is a campaign talking point/promise in the waiting IMHO. fleabiscuit Oct 2016 #11

In the interests of national security, I wonder if Hill is thinking of requesting they both.... Hekate Oct 2016 #12

I'm sure they have tailored them... Frank Cannon Oct 2016 #33

I would devoutly hope so Hekate Oct 2016 #43

Let's just note that what Wikileaks published was completely accurate. Jim Lane Oct 2016 #14

At this point, Wikileaks has quite a lot of explaining to do. Although it's stooges KittyWampus Oct 2016 #22

The Trump-Putin link that wasn�t... TomVilmer Oct 2016 #37

Thanks, that's an informative follow-up Jim Lane Oct 2016 #41

Comrade Groper & the G.O.P. in bed with Russia against the USA Achilleaze Oct 2016 #15

Good Summary Here: kpete Oct 2016 #16

Josh posits that since Russian propaganda is pervasive in Neo-Nazi circles KittyWampus Oct 2016 #23

And Russian propaganda is as inept as Trump himself. They were made for one another! randome Oct 2016 #17

I hope this article starts getting refered to again and again and again salin Oct 2016 #18

These questions need to be asked again and again. icymist Oct 2016 #19

Sounds like a great debate question to be asked by the moderator exboyfil Oct 2016 #28

I don't care. MisterFred Oct 2016 #21

Wikileaks is putting up documents that may have been altered AND WITHHOLD DOCUMENTS FROM RUSSIA KittyWampus Oct 2016 #24

They're not Breitbart. MisterFred Oct 2016 #25

They're not Breitbart? And Trump's sexual assault isn't as bad as ISIS. KittyWampus Oct 2016 #29

Oh, I get it, you're just reading headlines. MisterFred Oct 2016 #30

Sick of Wikileaks/Assange stooges. LenaBaby61 Oct 2016 #36

Trump and the Russians. Bookmarking. underpants Oct 2016 #26

I had to read it several times to appreciate the full asiliveandbreathe Oct 2016 #27

I have to say, it is a mish-mash of a story. Stonepounder Oct 2016 #32

Short version: Nevernose Oct 2016 #38

Saving to read later. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #34

How does DU feel about Glenn Greenwald these days ? superpatriotman Oct 2016 #35

I read it too. cpwm17 Oct 2016 #40

Now, it seems that Wikileaks is to be attacked obliquely again... xocet Oct 2016 #39

Continuing to be the "dominant political faction in the U.S." Its_About_Us Oct 2016 #42

"dominant political faction" ... xocet Oct 2016 #45

Haven't seen anything like it since Molotov and Von Ribbentrop got together. Mc Mike Oct 2016 #46

Anyone else think Russia might try to cause a international crisis if Trump loses? Nt maryellen99 Oct 2016 #47

NPR covered this this morning, and interviewed Eichenwald. Nitram Oct 2016 #50

If anyone criticizes President Hillary Clinton, will they be accused of being a Russian spy? davidn3600 Oct 2016 #52

Perhaps if they have advance knowledge of hacked falsified emails from Russian hackers wishstar Oct 2016 #54

But that's where this seems to be going davidn3600 Oct 2016 #55