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hfojvt

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58. the point is about voters, not about elected officials
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 01:59 PM
Jun 2012

But here's an elected official http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Bethell

Now deceased. When he died in that car accident, many of the Democrats that I am friends with on facebook - Sean Gatewood, Ann Mah, Annie Tietze, etc. posted about what a great guy he was. My own state rep, started her newsletter like this

"The 2012 Legislative Session ended in a sad note last Sunday when
Representative Bob Bethell died in a car accident less than an hour
after adjournment. He had spent the last minutes of the session trying
to get the House to concur on a bill that would have established an
oversight committee for the State’s new KAN-CARE plan that is going
into effect in January 2013. The bill failed. Rep Bethell was a 69
year old retired teacher who ran senior living centers. He was also a
pastor and headed many community projects in his town of Alden Kansas,
an annual fundraiser for the Special Olympics in Topeka, and a ministry
for the women in the Topeka Corrections Facility. This was his 12th
session. He always had a smile for you and wore a “Veggie Tales”
tomato pin and a Mickey Mouse tie. He was the Chairman of the Longterm
Care and Aging Committee. We will all miss him."

But, whoops, there may be a little piety there. But one thing about piety, is that there are many Democrats who are Christians. So I am not sure why anybody is supposed to reject piety, much less Republicans. Here, let me quote a great progressive leader from the past "Here, then, is the hard challenge and the sublime opportunity: to let the spirit of Christ work toward fashioning a truly great Christian nation.." or a convention speech from 1984 which began "Tonight, we come together, bound by our faith in a mighty god, with genuine respect and love for our country..."

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Only thing that can beat money is a well defined populist platform newthinking Jun 2012 #23
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We define issues in 16/32nds... kentuck Jun 2012 #3
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we are going to take a pounding KT2000 Jun 2012 #7
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