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197. It get's confusing

Reply to GObamaGO (Reply #193)

Mon Jun 18, 2012, 02:57 PM

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Has PC gone too far? [View all] revolution breeze Jun 2012 OP

No, I don't think you're over-thinking this at all. It is hurtful and RKP5637 Jun 2012 #1

My uncle's solution to his son being gay revolution breeze Jun 2012 #4

I thought we had too, but parts of this country are really really RKP5637 Jun 2012 #60

I can see that. bluedigger Jun 2012 #2

But they have figured it out revolution breeze Jun 2012 #8

I see I missed some nuance, myself. bluedigger Jun 2012 #20

I don't think it is confusion. The source of the "g-word" phrase is the bigot herself. yardwork Jun 2012 #24

Well, that isn't known. bluedigger Jun 2012 #30

I should have made this clearer revolution breeze Jun 2012 #33

That is unbelievable. Literally. yardwork Jun 2012 #34

I 100% agree, Yardie obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #38

This is incredible. yardwork Jun 2012 #44

And we know why that is, don't we? obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #50

Delighted? revolution breeze Jun 2012 #55

You apologize that I took offense. yardwork Jun 2012 #136

The OP was describing the attitude of another parent LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #86

Yardwork knows that obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #98

But it's "PC gone too far." yardwork Jun 2012 #124

I apologize if you are offended, seriously revolution breeze Jun 2012 #54

the sorry if you are offended apology is nonsense fizzgig Jun 2012 #59

The OP was posted in haste revolution breeze Jun 2012 #75

be that as it may fizzgig Jun 2012 #83

This thread is incredibly hurtful GObamaGO Jun 2012 #90

Would you please scan something from the school saying this? obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #43

I find it 100% believable joeglow3 Jun 2012 #56

We will have to respectfully agree to disagree on that obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #69

All I have is what the counselor told me on the phone this morning. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #58

Then you should call the Prinicpal, now obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #68

I left a message on her answering service. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #79

Your kids are still in school? OKNancy Jun 2012 #194

Kids out in May. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #198

I think the OP needs this: GObamaGO Jun 2012 #199

... yardwork Jun 2012 #200

Nothing runs like a Deere! GObamaGO Jun 2012 #208

It's the mentality of some people to me. If there were no gays, no blacks, RKP5637 Jun 2012 #66

Many kids use gay as an adjective, meaning bad or stupid Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #3

But we all know Alice's mother is gay revolution breeze Jun 2012 #9

The answer to your question ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #40

Yes. The same word(s) have different meanings in different contexts. To try to say that doesn't patrice Jun 2012 #5

I love your reply! revolution breeze Jun 2012 #11

Maybe you need to tell you daughter she can't play at Susy's because her mother is the b(igot) word. EFerrari Jun 2012 #15

We actually had this discussion several weeks ago revolution breeze Jun 2012 #21

How does this solve the problem? Isn't it just putting lipstick on a pig? Pretending that it's ALL patrice Jun 2012 #32

I have no idea what you're talking about. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #37

It's bad for people to not be "allowed" to talk with one another honestly. That badness/evil is patrice Jun 2012 #57

You seem very interested in that topic. However, it isn't the one I'm addressing EFerrari Jun 2012 #62

Language is NOT absolute, no matter how hard YOU try to make it. Accepting the whole PC patrice Jun 2012 #74

Again, since I'm not arguing that position, I have no idea what you are talking about. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #85

So, the word "gay", or "black", or "boy" CAN be used appropriately without being a bigot or racist? patrice Jun 2012 #88

So, how should we determine what is appropriate and what is not? Does avoiding the use of thosewords patrice Jun 2012 #89

patrice, would you please read this thread and see that I never said they can't be? Thanks. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #110

I will. patrice Jun 2012 #211

I think that's a good idea. I hadn't seen your response when I posted this suggestion downthread. yardwork Jun 2012 #18

"Subvert the dominant paradigm" -- EFerrari Jun 2012 #153

Speaking for yourself is one of the "absolutely" most powerful things you can do. It ranks right up patrice Jun 2012 #23

Louis C.K. has a bit on this, with regard to the word "jew" jpljr77 Jun 2012 #203

It would have been a perfect opportunity to sufrommich Jun 2012 #6

My daughter knows the meaning revolution breeze Jun 2012 #10

The OP isn;t saying that obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #46

Now you've got it! revolution breeze Jun 2012 #95

I've "had" it obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #100

The term "g-word" was an easy out revolution breeze Jun 2012 #112

Adjectives go through a progression from in-group to accepted to deprecated to prohibited. FarCenter Jun 2012 #7

You're worried about something being "too PC" when your neighbor is a bigot? yardwork Jun 2012 #12

Beat me to it... TreasonousBastard Jun 2012 #14

I agree. I'm not seeing the PC problem here. nt sufrommich Jun 2012 #16

I am worried about PC because they are taught at school to say g-word revolution breeze Jun 2012 #26

They weren't taught that at school - Suzy's mom told them to use that phrase. yardwork Jun 2012 #31

Nope revolution breeze Jun 2012 #61

Wow, you must live in Alabama or something obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #72

Louisiana revolution breeze Jun 2012 #81

Christ Killers? Really??? GObamaGO Jun 2012 #94

Maybe it should be obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #96

That would probably be best GObamaGO Jun 2012 #104

I am trying to give a picture. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #99

You can give the picture without typing out every racial and religious slur possible. GObamaGO Jun 2012 #103

What racial slur? revolution breeze Jun 2012 #105

n-word for one GObamaGO Jun 2012 #107

The OP ws about the use of the phrase "g-word". revolution breeze Jun 2012 #115

You could have used the words "homophobic slur" and communicated your idea in a far less hurtful way GObamaGO Jun 2012 #116

Again, I apologize revolution breeze Jun 2012 #128

So why is your OP a concern that this is all due to PC gone too far? yardwork Jun 2012 #129

Susy's real name is Savannah, Mary is really Molly revolution breeze Jun 2012 #137

"Susy Barnes," Yardie obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #139

That's it. This is a real life Chick tract. Who knew? yardwork Jun 2012 #140

HOLY CRAP GObamaGO Jun 2012 #141

All under the heading "Has PC gone too far?" yardwork Jun 2012 #133

Things that make me go "HMMM" GObamaGO Jun 2012 #138

+1.000,000 ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #45

Wasn't the edit interesting, Yardie? obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #47

I live in the South revolution breeze Jun 2012 #49

Please post the written documentation for this "gword" thing obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #52

Terminology is not the issue here and has nothing to do with the right-wing bugaboo "PC." Brickbat Jun 2012 #13

Wingnuts use "PC" to describe common courtesy and consideration. EFerrari Jun 2012 #17

Is it possible for anti-PC to be PC? Not everyone who wants to talk about words is a wingnut. Why patrice Jun 2012 #25

It may be but that is your assumption, not mine. EFerrari Jun 2012 #28

Talking about your bias, admitting that it IS bias (which is practically unavoidable, btw) IS consid patrice Jun 2012 #48

I don't understand why you are having this discussion with me EFerrari Jun 2012 #64

Just clarifying. Is that not permitted here? One could ask why that's a problem for you, since you patrice Jun 2012 #78

It sounds like the kids were told not to say "that's so gay" etc and misunderstood. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #19

The one using the bizarre "g-word" is a bigot who won't let her daughter in the house of a lesbian. yardwork Jun 2012 #22

The OP is now saying the school counselor told the kids to say that obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #53

Just talked to Suzy's mom revolution breeze Jun 2012 #71

This is getting even more interesting obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #73

Do you need a transcript of the call? revolution breeze Jun 2012 #87

Help me understand why you think the problem here is "PC gone too far." yardwork Jun 2012 #132

I guess I should have said "Is it now wrong to call revolution breeze Jun 2012 #148

Gotcha. It's all my fault for taking offense. yardwork Jun 2012 #151

"cat fight" obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #156

Sexism was the missing component. Check. yardwork Jun 2012 #159

How is cat fight sexism? revolution breeze Jun 2012 #161

Catfight is used as a pejorative GObamaGO Jun 2012 #168

I have always used it to mean either sex. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #175

Be that as it may GObamaGO Jun 2012 #187

I don't understand why you are being snarky obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #142

Now don't go all PC on us, obamanut. It's the source of all the world's problems, after all./sarcasm yardwork Jun 2012 #146

Not being snarky revolution breeze Jun 2012 #147

You really haven't been clear on some points which is why I am asking obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #158

I think I misread it. That'll teach me to post before coffee. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #125

I want to say that this OP has really offended me, as have the five recs for this thread. yardwork Jun 2012 #27

Sorry, I was on the phone (working) revolution breeze Jun 2012 #39

So thoughtful of you to post this kind of hatred and bigotry and then be too busy to respond. yardwork Jun 2012 #42

I have responded to you. n/t revolution breeze Jun 2012 #82

At age 12, kids are in middle school. If you heard the way the word "gay" is used in middle 1monster Jun 2012 #29

A couple of years ago I was tutoring a South Korean small businessman in English and CTyankee Jun 2012 #35

"PC" is conservative framing obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #36

Brown pants,brown jacket and blue shirt. Yes he has. Swede Jun 2012 #41

Well, that situation is better than MI and the "vagina" thing. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #51

Thank you. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #65

I'm in PA now - we've got Corbett. Talk about backward. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #154

I have a gay friend who loves to blow kisses at people who call him faggot. He's proud and I patrice Jun 2012 #63

A teacher friend told me that what her kids don't like, they call "gay and retarded." snot Jun 2012 #67

you are so gay. 12 yrs old, middle school. i can see the school making this rule. i would also seabeyond Jun 2012 #70

You think gay people should be called "the gword"??? obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #77

i am not sure what you are getting at. maybe you are right and i would not agree to whatever i have seabeyond Jun 2012 #80

Here is the context. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #84

ok, that whole story breaks my heart. seabeyond Jun 2012 #91

There is a paradoxical "sanitizing" effect on the language when children are taught discrimination.. JVS Jun 2012 #76

Your neighbor is a raging bigot, but we're supoosed to be worried about whether PC has gone too far. redqueen Jun 2012 #92

I know my neighbor is a bigot revolution breeze Jun 2012 #93

Your Black mother is also Jewish? GObamaGO Jun 2012 #144

Yes she is. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #152

Why is it not ok to go inside the house? n/t Jamastiene Jun 2012 #97

Because Suzy's mother is a loon. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #101

Now you are attacking waterfowl GObamaGO Jun 2012 #119

an idiot? n/t revolution breeze Jun 2012 #123

A loon. Jamastiene Jun 2012 #174

I know. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #177

Bigot or homophobe sounds about right. n/t Jamastiene Jun 2012 #202

The kids might catch Teh Gay Agenda? Quantess Jun 2012 #102

It is true revolution breeze Jun 2012 #106

This has nothing to do with "PC" Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #108

^^^^THIS!!! GObamaGO Jun 2012 #109

I am curious if the counselor advocates calling bisexuals obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #117

I do not know revolution breeze Jun 2012 #126

I sure don't think a bigot is more "suited for a classroom" obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #130

She was not forced to make decision in the classroom. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #134

Contact info for Louisiana school districts obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #111

Linking this thread would be a nice touch! GObamaGO Jun 2012 #114

Thanks!!!!!!! obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #118

Me neither GObamaGO Jun 2012 #122

Go right ahead. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #120

Err... why should you feel intimadted by me when I'm helping you? obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #127

She won't be disciplined. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #131

Apparently not in this case. yardwork Jun 2012 #135

I beleive there is hope for Susy revolution breeze Jun 2012 #143

Bigotry is definitely also taught at school! obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #149

She is a member of the teachers union. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #157

Well, you can't be a school counselor unless you are a school counselor obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #166

Our school librarian is not licensed. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #173

Then they aren't librarians obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #184

Wrong revolution breeze Jun 2012 #192

Telling children to call LGBT people "gword" is bigoted. Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #155

Political correctness always goes too far... Comrade_McKenzie Jun 2012 #113

Interesting obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #121

PC gone too far? Why, I declare! Not at all! Pat Buchanan Defends Rush Zorra Jun 2012 #145

Now I know this post has gone awry revolution breeze Jun 2012 #150

The Considerate Thing To Do Would Be To Delete Your OP HangOnKids Jun 2012 #160

I have a feeling that it's gone exactly the way the OP hoped. big "catfight." yardwork Jun 2012 #162

Now that we have had this discussion, revolution breeze Jun 2012 #163

No, we turn to the next Chick Tract. Is the next issue about Paganism? yardwork Jun 2012 #165

My very all time favorite! Zorra Jun 2012 #170

The D & D one is a personal favorite of mine obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #171

That would certainly make life interesting! revolution breeze Jun 2012 #179

I don't know what "we" do here because I speak for myself HangOnKids Jun 2012 #167

What are we discussing? Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #172

You asked a direct question in your subject line: "Has PC gone too far?" Zorra Jun 2012 #164

Oh my thread is not going the way I want it to go.... GObamaGO Jun 2012 #178

Exactly! n/t HangOnKids Jun 2012 #182

I have no intention of deleting this post. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #183

I never asked you to delete this post GObamaGO Jun 2012 #185

HangOnKids said it would be the considerate thing to do n/t revolution breeze Jun 2012 #188

And it would be HangOnKids Jun 2012 #190

Then why did you not reply to HangOnKids' post? GObamaGO Jun 2012 #193

It get's confusing revolution breeze Jun 2012 #197

You have "not intention" what is that? HangOnKids Jun 2012 #189

Better now? revolution breeze Jun 2012 #195

Better than what? Yesterday? Tomorrow? Ezra? HangOnKids Jun 2012 #201

How junior high. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #204

Gee Thanks! HangOnKids Jun 2012 #206

I don't think that respect, tolerance and civility could ever go too far... LanternWaste Jun 2012 #169

Amen HangOnKids Jun 2012 #181

Not surprising. We were told we weren't allowed to use the word gay at my elementary. This was a Puregonzo1188 Jun 2012 #176

gee, I think the bigotry of your neighbor is a bigger problem than political correctness fishwax Jun 2012 #180

My neighbor is free to be what she chooses. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #186

You haz SAD HangOnKids Jun 2012 #191

And that's fine but it really doesn't handle your identifying the problem as EFerrari Jun 2012 #196

I, too, think the problem is bigotry and not political correctness. Jamastiene Jun 2012 #205

Agreed GObamaGO Jun 2012 #207

Why won't you tell us what school this is, if your daughter isn't going to be going there next year? Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #209

I try to maintain as much internet anonymity as possible. revolution breeze Jun 2012 #210

I'm glad you are leaving this open. bluedigger Jun 2012 #212

This message was self-deleted by its author bluedigger Jun 2012 #213

While calling it the g-word is silly, the real problem here is not what words are used... LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #214