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9. Perhaps you're watching the wrong porn

Sun Oct 23, 2016, 09:41 PM

Oct 2016

There is porn that doesn't include facials, or simulated incest. In fact some doesn't include both genders. In fact, some porn only has one person so nobody is "winning".

Not all porn is mainstream porn. And not even all mainstream porn simulates rape or underage females.

But I feel really confident that there aren't many, if any, underage porn stars. Legitimate porn has too much to lose to risk an underage participant.

I have issues with porn. A lot of it is unimaginative, too many shots that are good for the camera but seem rather uncomfortable to try in real life, and it's generally too antiseptic like they are just going through the motions. I think mainstream porn also doesn't do enough to ensure the mental health of their employees. But the same can be said for other jobs like cops.

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Does Porn Degrade Women? [View all] Retired George Oct 2016 OP

Whatevs Loki Liesmith Oct 2016 #1

Have you seen "money shots"? Retired George Oct 2016 #10

You're watching the wrong porn. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #17

Yeah, "porn" is a pretty vague term. Is nudity porn? or bedroom scenes in regular movies? ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #79

Most of the porn I've seen is films of people having sex. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #81

LOL Skittles Oct 2016 #321

I think you may have misunderstood my post, my friend. I've never claimed I haven't looked at smut. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #322

... Major Nikon Oct 2016 #274

If nautical nonsense be something ye wish Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #277

I have the same problem at Taco Bell jberryhill Oct 2016 #38

I have no idea what a meximelt is. Will I regret googling it? nt msanthrope Oct 2016 #57

probably. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #82

One third of them? melman Oct 2016 #52

Does Gay Porn degrade men? brooklynite Oct 2016 #2

Oh, it is? Well, never mind then. kcr Oct 2016 #90

There is a demand for oil so I think we should let the North Dakota pipeline go through. Right?? adigal Oct 2016 #139

There Will Be Lube Orrex Oct 2016 #142

That was a slick comment! Dr. Strange Oct 2016 #143

Grease is the word. Orrex Oct 2016 #144

So what specifically is your alternative? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #187

What exactly would you like? You already have the 1st Amendment right to complain all you want. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #186

Of course not, for two reasons. Behind the Aegis Oct 2016 #95

watch it, if you don't support censorship, apparently you're an "MRA" Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #282

? opiate69 Oct 2016 #286

Some think invoking those letters will obscure the fact that they're defending a GOP Platform Plank Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #287

You watch some weird porn. temporary311 Oct 2016 #3

Really. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2016 #6

Is their any other kind? Retired George Oct 2016 #11

I heard that "today's marijuana" causes brain damage and will make your testicles fall off, too. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #16

There are a ton Jamaal510 Oct 2016 #247

Well, George only watches the degrading kind. Dr. Strange Oct 2016 #252

Jesus. Next time I've had a few too many I know I'm msanthrope Oct 2016 #263

So... outlaw it? tinrobot Oct 2016 #4

I do not disagree with the idea. But- while it was bad in the past digital photography... JanMichael Oct 2016 #7

Perhaps you're watching the wrong porn mythology Oct 2016 #9

Such porn exists Retired George Oct 2016 #14

You're watching porn with your wife, but then you want to start an anti-porn thread on DU? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #18

Well, it's a glass half-full kinda thing. jberryhill Oct 2016 #37

Maybe you should screen the porn yourself before you show your wife snooper2 Oct 2016 #138

I think there is a difference between porn and erotica. LisaM Oct 2016 #48

"Erotica is what I like, porn is what you like." Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #53

I think some people confuse acknowledging that women are indeed degraded in some porn kcr Oct 2016 #96

This! smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #118

I might accept that if I saw the anti-porn activists like Dines promoting "good" porn. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #189

Ask Gail Dines to find some porn she won't call "degrading" or "harmful" Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #181

Not all porn is the same MadBadger Oct 2016 #12

I think the problem is the human flesh trade. Rex Oct 2016 #13

There are a lot of different sex work categories.... demgurl Oct 2016 #164

You get paid to have sex on camera, some porn is very much prostitution. Rex Oct 2016 #170

You do not get paid to have sex on camera. demgurl Oct 2016 #196

Getting paid to have sex is prostitution. The acting part? Really that is where you want to go? Rex Oct 2016 #254

Then why is making porn not illegal? demgurl Oct 2016 #275

So nobody is getting paid to have sex? Rex Oct 2016 #288

No. They are getting paid to act. demgurl Oct 2016 #303

I don't care, it is not anything but an opinion. Rex Oct 2016 #306

Of course you are giving your opinion demgurl Oct 2016 #329

Oh goody, a porn thread. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #15

Sign me on to this post. nt msanthrope Oct 2016 #19

I'm a neverending font of wisdom. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #20

I enjoyed reading the OP. I'm always fascinated when people describe msanthrope Oct 2016 #21

Interesting observation. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #22

Well, it reminds me of the time my very Republican aunt described the msanthrope Oct 2016 #24

"My wife has complained on several occasions" jberryhill Oct 2016 #36

Personally, I think the intent of this OP was to make us fight stevenleser Oct 2016 #211

Thank Christ he didn't ask for a chicken-breading recipie. nt msanthrope Oct 2016 #236

Heh. +1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2016 #126

Oh yeah. edbermac Oct 2016 #130

Methinks he doth protest too much. NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #299

Shoulda gone for beer, travel money and many experiences pinboy3niner Oct 2016 #23

awww....that's a blast from the past Lucinda Oct 2016 #25

A nice, if random, thought. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #28

Well, you have to admit it's been a while since we had a good one. NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #298

Hell, look around: some folks are STILL being traumatized by the 2013 SI swimsuit issue Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #308

That one was particularly radioactive. NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #328

There was like at least a month of continual shit-losing, over that one. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #334

"ruined my entire year" NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #338

Some. Some doesn't. Just like mainstream films. n/t Lucinda Oct 2016 #26

Welcome to DU alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #27

C'mon, when's the last time GD had a good old fashioned porn war? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #30

There's an election going on - we don't have time for porn jberryhill Oct 2016 #39

Speak for yourself, hombre Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #41

People like you are why I use hand sanitizer after voting jberryhill Oct 2016 #43

Ass pennies Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #44

Ever use a TV remote in a hotel room? jberryhill Oct 2016 #46

I know. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #47

I never saw that clip before jberryhill Oct 2016 #56

Hell with that! greatauntoftriplets Oct 2016 #111

Porn and comedians angrychair Oct 2016 #29

Republicans are the party of wanting to censor pornography. Just read their platform. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #31

And the most porn watching states are mostly red TexasBushwhacker Oct 2016 #267

that's actually not a true statistic. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #268

what if it's femdom porn? qazplm Oct 2016 #32

apparently no adult can EVER possibly consent to take off their clothes in front of a camera. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author Grey Lemercier Oct 2016 #246

There are men in porn videos as well liberal N proud Oct 2016 #34

Why would the question only apply to women? Doodley Oct 2016 #35

Not unless women are forced into it LeftInTX Oct 2016 #40

IMHO, porn degrades both men and women. Koinos Oct 2016 #42

I think trying to tell consenting adults how they should or shouldn't get their jollies is what is Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #49

The above opinion wasn't in any way "trying" to do anything. WinkyDink Oct 2016 #331

you're right, it's just flat out telling other people what to do. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #332

I have a few amusing porn stories, and a few utterly terrifying porn stories. hunter Oct 2016 #45

is a nude drawing for an art class "porn"? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #50

My hands are not small. hunter Oct 2016 #60

Now you're being ridiculous rumdude Oct 2016 #61

I'm responding to the post which put the nude drawing anecdote under "my porn stories" Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #64

Years ago I posted a picture of my own naked ass on DU. hunter Oct 2016 #70

you have the best stories, I've noticed lol kudos :) nt steve2470 Oct 2016 #190

Posing nude for a college drawing class is not porn. athena Oct 2016 #110

It's a continuum, art to porn. hunter Oct 2016 #168

No, it is not. athena Oct 2016 #169

so why does the inclusion of something sexual automatically remove it from the category "art"? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #177

Not original person you Dorian Gray Oct 2016 #323

Agreed. That's great. Haven't been to that particular museum, myself. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #325

I agree Dorian Gray Oct 2016 #326

And I agree too. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #327

We are in agreement Dorian Gray Oct 2016 #335

Is there any art going on at a place like this: hunter Oct 2016 #192

if everyone could & would agree that enthusiastic adult consent should be the standard Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #201

Ask your father athena Oct 2016 #208

art is nothing if not subjective. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #209

"The U.S.A. has it's own toxic cultural attitudes about nudity and sexuality." NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #300

I know of a few "tricks" used in porn production. Lint Head Oct 2016 #51

Ivory Liquid tastes even worse jberryhill Oct 2016 #84

Just like fight scenes in movies aren't "real", they're staged to look real ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #85

I think much of it does, not all, but much rumdude Oct 2016 #54

I don't feel the need to defend shitty bands, but that doesn't mean I agree "Rock & Roll is Satanic" Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #55

I don't feel the need to call for a ban or even regulation of it to admit that a lot of porn is rumdude Oct 2016 #59

One, comparing pictures of naked people fucking to heroin is ludicrous. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #63

Once again, simple naked pictures are not the issue rumdude Oct 2016 #65

The OPs central point is that "most porn is bad" Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #72

I believe this article raises some valid critiques rumdude Oct 2016 #68

Gail Dines has built her entire career on fighting porn. So she's hardly a disinterested participant Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #71

Then we must agree to disagree. rumdude Oct 2016 #73

Really? You don't want to defend the Republican Platform and the Utah State Legislature? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #74

Everything can't be reduced to simple left v right rumdude Oct 2016 #76

and yet, you want to reduce "porn" to a single, easily broadbrushed entity. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #179

You don't seem to be able to handle any critique whatsoever about porn. smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #119

Swap out porn for guns in video games Blue_Adept Oct 2016 #129

what people don't seem to be able to handle is any challenging of these axiomatic, blanket Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #171

And again, Gail Dines has nothing but praise for the Republican State Legislature in Utah. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #203

you find me an example of Gail Dines approving of ANY graphic visual depiction of adult sexuality Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #260

Are french fries bad? GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #58

If two people who do not know each other have sex... A HERETIC I AM Oct 2016 #62

So censorship of pornography is the answer? How many years in jail should someone get? davidn3600 Oct 2016 #66

authoritarians gotta authoritize, control freaks gotta control. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #75

Well? Is it? kcr Oct 2016 #91

Oh come on... davidn3600 Oct 2016 #92

No. I don't. kcr Oct 2016 #94

It may assist you to learn the wholly relevant difference between "imply" and "infer." LanternWaste Oct 2016 #279

Yep.... no mention of ANY proposed regulation, much less a ban proposal. Straw man. nt prayin4rain Oct 2016 #167

Nice MRA strawman you got there. nt JTFrog Oct 2016 #250

You really like to trot out that MRA boogeyman, don't you? NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #292

Only when apropos. nt JTFrog Oct 2016 #295

Like when you want to shut down discussion that you don't like? NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #296

Lol, ok. nt JTFrog Oct 2016 #297

How do you know that what you've described degrades women? Yavin4 Oct 2016 #67

No. It can, just like Hooters. But it doesn't always, for closeupready Oct 2016 #69

I hope Hillary isnt like you. mr_liberal Oct 2016 #77

The ONLY people making this sort of noise are Republicans. Read their platform. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #78

Then why the need to clutch at the porn stashes in fear kcr Oct 2016 #93

I'm sorry if you don't like my opinion. I'm sorry if you don't like people standing up for choice. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #97

If this were a discussion about authoritarianism, I'd be right there with you. kcr Oct 2016 #99

mislabeling? The entire premise of these threads is based upon deliberate misrepresentation. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #100

Where is the deliberate misrepresentation? kcr Oct 2016 #101

I guess. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #102

Oops. Hashtag not all porn! Sorry, I didn't catch that. kcr Oct 2016 #103

There was a guy in Britain who fucked a mailbox. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #104

+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #123

Exactly. betsuni Oct 2016 #131

what is black and white is the attempt to put "porn" under one roof. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #173

You notice I haven't posted anything. Jim Beard Oct 2016 #233

Wow. You just love the porn industry. rumdude Oct 2016 #121

+1 betsuni Oct 2016 #132

You're right, I'm tougher on "Christianity" than I am on "the porn industry". You got my number. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #172

The demographics of DU, and the party in general, are changing. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2016 #127

I think younger people are increasingly small-l libertarian on personal choice issues. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #175

Is it your belief that this campaign has brought young people to the party? lumberjack_jeff Oct 2016 #243

I do, actually. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #244

Your optimism is something I like about you. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2016 #253

Like Bucky Fuller, my optimism is a conscious choice. And not always an easy one. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #257

It generally degrades all who come in contact with it nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #80

Good heavens, how do you stand the internet? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #83

frequently the same nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #107

Upright is best Blue_Adept Oct 2016 #113

It's one of those two person lifting jobs, for sure Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #191

What about the coming age of sex robots....Does that degrade women too? davidn3600 Oct 2016 #87

if one's ideal of sex is mechanically using another body to masturbate oneself geek tragedy Oct 2016 #108

+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #125

That's exactly right. athena Oct 2016 #162

to a more abstract point, it denies the entire human/psychological/emotional component of sexuality geek tragedy Oct 2016 #163

Good point. athena Oct 2016 #166

I'm glad we agree that its time for a long-overdue conversation about women & vibrators. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #198

There are male sex dolls sold. MicaelS Oct 2016 #204

Derp.... opiate69 Oct 2016 #222

bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb-buck! Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #273

Then why are the two places we hear this gail dines gibberish, this thread & the GOP platform? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #199

"Almost eight out of 10 young women said pornography geek tragedy Oct 2016 #206

And throwing personal insults out means the intellectual argument is lost Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #207

I threw no insults. Re-read what I wrote? geek tragedy Oct 2016 #216

Nor have I "tried to act as if everyone who doesn't have pornhub in their bookmarks is a deviant" Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #220

Part of free expression is learning to deal with the fact geek tragedy Oct 2016 #229

Who's not dealing with it? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #231

Are women ready to give up vibrators and other sex toys then? davidn3600 Oct 2016 #223

This is the future? GOLGO 13 Oct 2016 #117

An MRA Utopia. nt JTFrog Oct 2016 #251

Camera sex isn't pleasure sex. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2016 #86

Does TV "professional wrestling" degrade men? ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #88

This is a long list for such a subject. rusty quoin Oct 2016 #89

sure, when people thought sex was dirty and we had to be constantly vigilant about "sin". Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #98

Not the porn i watch and enjoy patsimp Oct 2016 #105

Porn industry is one of the few Separation Oct 2016 #106

A lot of the home-made porn is OK, it's the professional stuff that is disgusting and degrading. Odin2005 Oct 2016 #109

Sort of like beer or agriculture The2ndWheel Oct 2016 #114

But "professional" covers just as wide a number of genres as hollywood/tv Blue_Adept Oct 2016 #115

Usually it's not until the winter months that we get the porn wars Blue_Adept Oct 2016 #112

Blame climate change n/t Yavin4 Oct 2016 #120

Damn you, Al Gore! :D Blue_Adept Oct 2016 #128

Apparently winter is coming Orrex Oct 2016 #136

we haven't had a good one of these in a while, and it shows. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #183

"some people really need to get it out of their systems" NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #294

Indeed an all-time high achiever in the annals of "throw some shit at the wall & see if it sticks" Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #307

To each their own Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #116

The porn industry strongly regulates age. MicaelS Oct 2016 #122

Why do anti-porn people never acknowledge that some women enjoy performing in and watching porn Yavin4 Oct 2016 #124

Because they're first and foremost anti-porn? The2ndWheel Oct 2016 #133

That's fine. I'm "anti" a lot of things, but I don't want to deny people from enjoying them. Yavin4 Oct 2016 #134

Then you're not first and foremost anti-whatever The2ndWheel Oct 2016 #137

Ah, porn... fullautohotdog Oct 2016 #135

Where does amatuer or home made porn fit into this belief of degradation? Heeeeers Johnny Oct 2016 #140

Sometimes ismnotwasm Oct 2016 #141

Yay! A pron thread! Glassunion Oct 2016 #145

Don't worry ismnotwasm Oct 2016 #146

So Retired George has been Retired? Glassunion Oct 2016 #148

Heh! Yes he was ismnotwasm Oct 2016 #151

Jeez--what triggered it? Orrex Oct 2016 #156

Just another Troll who can't stay away ismnotwasm Oct 2016 #158

Well, now he has more time for his precious, precious porn Orrex Oct 2016 #160

I'm gonna say Hopehoops Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #176

Not him. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2016 #184

Oh. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #185

I don't think so. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2016 #193

Ah, yes. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #194

It does. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2016 #195

Part of the problem ... Straw Man Oct 2016 #147

LOL! Looks like the author of the OP has been "retired" Marengo Oct 2016 #149

Can't say I agree with you. demgurl Oct 2016 #150

One more thing..... demgurl Oct 2016 #152

Thank you for adding some really great points with this and your other post Blue_Adept Oct 2016 #155

You are welcome. demgurl Oct 2016 #197

Lots of projection in this post.... Upin Oct 2016 #153

how come we never think of men being degraded by porn? i think porn is degrading because La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2016 #154

exactly. Or some people do. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #178

Yup La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2016 #230

Depends on the porn. Nt LostOne4Ever Oct 2016 #157

Without consent, it's wrong JesterCS Oct 2016 #159

I am fed up with the cost of internet porn. This free stuff has to stop. Jim Beard Oct 2016 #161

I alerted on this a few hours ago. edbermac Oct 2016 #165

He may have been a returning customer, and once you brought him to the system's attention Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #174

When I was fresh out of journalism school, my first paying job was to Exilednight Oct 2016 #180

Yeaaaa!! Porn wars! ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2016 #200

The fact that the OP was a shit-stirring troll, now banned, doesnt seem to stop some here Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #202

LOL JonLP24 Oct 2016 #241

yeah, you hang around the cizarny long enough Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #242

This thread clearly needs pictures Generic Brad Oct 2016 #205

cute bunnies. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #210

And, of course, who doesn't love frogs? opiate69 Oct 2016 #212

come to be insulted, too? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #214

Heh... meanie! opiate69 Oct 2016 #219

it's disgusting that anyone would have SEX... with a MACHINE! Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #225

If I were you, I'd stay away from Japanese porn for sure MrScorpio Oct 2016 #226

Agreed. I haven't been able to eat seafood since. name not needed Oct 2016 #235

I think it definitely does JonLP24 Oct 2016 #234

I'm sure there are people who watch superman and think a red cape will allow them to fly, too. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #238

Is Rock and Roll a Tool of Satan? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #237

Look at you go rumdude Oct 2016 #239

C'mon, no more personal insults? I'm disappointed. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #240

... opiate69 Oct 2016 #245

. reflection Oct 2016 #249

For someone so abjectly opposed to porn, you seem to know a lot about it. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2016 #255

Sometimes degradation is the point JCMach1 Oct 2016 #256

Spot on Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #304

This thread shall never die rumdude Oct 2016 #258

It sounds like this isn't your first trip through the DU carwash, so, you should expect that. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #259

I'm still trying to think of who old Retired Georgie boy used to be... opiate69 Oct 2016 #262

Check your PMs Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #264

Alas the captain went down with his ship. Rex Oct 2016 #270

like I said, it's too early for the Thanksgiving Turkey Holocaust threads. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #271

There was a pitbull thread a few weeks ago. Rex Oct 2016 #272

Don't forget breast feeding. NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #339

It ain't - nt rumdude Oct 2016 #283

guess what? It wasn't the OPs, either. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #285

Is this the longest all time porn thread? AngryAmish Oct 2016 #261

Oh, not even close. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #265

But those wars were multiple, this is pure concentrated stupidity AngryAmish Oct 2016 #266

hey, I resemble that remark. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #269

Oh, dear heavens, no. NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #293

Thank fuck for that. opiate69 Oct 2016 #305

Usually it's longer, but we're just not able to keep it up. Dr. Strange Oct 2016 #309

Is it Ed Meese Commission / Ken Starr Report Appreciation Week? ZX86 Oct 2016 #276

EVERYONE WHO DOESNT AGREE WITH ED MEESE, RICK SANTORUM, AND THE GOP PLATFORM IS AN "MRA"!!!! Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #281

Trump approves many of the impassioned MRA responses in this thread. LanternWaste Oct 2016 #278

what the sam hell are you on about, now? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #280

You inferred so much that doesn't exist from a small statement. LanternWaste Oct 2016 #340

it took you a week to come back with ....that? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #342

That's a monument - nt rumdude Oct 2016 #284

Agreed. Ellen Forradalom Oct 2016 #289

"a public health crisis that is destroying the life [sic] of millions" Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #290

I'll give you the same advice I always give: NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #291

When did the left become neo-puritans? /nt Marr Oct 2016 #301

Unfortunately there is a long tradition of some on the left... NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #302

I think it's an increasingly outdated perspective, frankly. But.... DU skews older. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #310

Millennials also dont go to church as much. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #311

I think it's because of the polls that show they aren't crazy about Hillary, honestly. Marr Oct 2016 #312

Im sure thats part of it. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #313

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2016 #314

You know, the OP was written by a banned serial troll. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #315

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2016 #316

My 'agenda'? It has to do with an international banking conspiracy Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #317

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2016 #318

yeah Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #319

well, look at that, "name removed" Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #320

I'm married and allowed to watch porn. I like porn where the women are either dominant... phleshdef Oct 2016 #324

Everyone. Its etymology makes that clear: WinkyDink Oct 2016 #330

that's why I prefer "smut" Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #333

Hehe... smut... opiate69 Oct 2016 #336

Looks more like Quetzlcoatl with a side of 72 hours of nightmarish hallucinations Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #337

One usually pays a bit more for that particular 'experience'.... (the degrading part) underahedgerow Oct 2016 #341

Exactly. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #343

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