Can we all agree that, today's verdict notwithstanding, Clemens was a juicer?

[just1voice]

15. I've explained to people why pro baseball is a joke, most don't care

If people understood that lying to Congress is about lying to the American people and viewed it as the horrendous anti-American act that it is, then possibly people would give a flying fck. But most people are not even capable of anything but reactive Pavlovian responses to propaganda wherein it's OK to lie about anything as long as it's viewed as being in the liar's self-interest.

MLB is a typical American business that lives by the same credo of lying, cheating, stealing, propagandizing and profits. It's really vulgar at its core but its fans have learned to just ignore all the stink and focus on themselves and their little rah-rah, go-team act they see as some twisted kind of spirit.