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stopbush

(24,852 posts)
13. I agree with your perspective.
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 11:54 AM
Oct 2016

I grew up an Indians fan in Ashtabula, Ohio (where Trump is campaigning today. Sigh.) i have major arguments with my family and high school classmates over Cleveland's continued use of their racist mascot. Even the team name needs to be changed, IMO.

I don't understand why sports fans cling to racist images like Chief Wahoo, or team names like The Redskins. What would be so bad about retiring the name and renaming the team after an animal or some other benign entity? The fact is that back in the old days, many sports teams changed their names when they relocated or they were taken over by new management. Today, any change is seen as stealing someone's birthright.

The continued use of these racist symbols is a stark example of a majority telling minorities etc what they are allowed to find offensive. What makes it worse is the reality that people who have lived a life of privilege - as have white people - tend to find equality to be oppressive, when and if equality gains a foothold. Ergo, pointing out that a longstanding team symbol embodies racism is seen as oppressing the rights of those who are not being oppressed by the symbol.

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This is why I hope Cleveland loses [View all] Major Nikon Oct 2016 OP
Watching the game last night Canoe52 Oct 2016 #1
Oh, gawd... that is one effective photo hlthe2b Oct 2016 #2
What A Dope! ProfessorGAC Oct 2016 #3
I had my daughter pull the logo exboyfil Oct 2016 #4
Cleveland fans can be annoying. And the logo is ridiculous. But..... Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2016 #6
it was inexcusable the way Bartman was treated mnmoderatedem Oct 2016 #12
Not to mention the Cubs having one of the largest payrolls in MLB... trotsky Oct 2016 #14
This is why I hope Chicago loses. Iggo Oct 2016 #7
disgraceful napkinz Oct 2016 #11
The owner of the Cubs is a major Trump supporter. stopbush Oct 2016 #8
Not everything is about politics Major Nikon Oct 2016 #10
I agree with your perspective. stopbush Oct 2016 #13
Which one? alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #21
I think all are Republicans, except the daughter. IL Lib Oct 2016 #25
No doubt alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #26
I recall reading an article about Tom Ricketts needing Rahm's cooperation on various issues. IL Lib Oct 2016 #27
The last time the Cubs won a World Series, BobTheSubgenius Oct 2016 #15
LOL !!! pangaia Oct 2016 #29
That photo is from a 2014 protest against the Indians logo... tenderfoot Oct 2016 #16
Disingenuous doesn't mean what you think it means Major Nikon Oct 2016 #20
I think others have effectively stated elsewhere that one douche doesn't equal the whole. tenderfoot Oct 2016 #22
So now you are being disengenuous Major Nikon Oct 2016 #24
The Cleveland American Indian Movement has been protesting a long time ... kwassa Oct 2016 #17
because of one asshole fan? Skittles Oct 2016 #19
Do you really need to see more than one example? Major Nikon Oct 2016 #23
I appreciate the supporting OP's message, for sure! And, I am rooting for the Indians! Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #28
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