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haele

(15,017 posts)
10. Wouldn't be a Civil War, it would be a Coup attempt.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 02:18 PM
Nov 2016

Even in strong red states - well, except for maybe Kansas and Oklahoma, you have a diverse enough demographic and enough economic reliance on Federal assistance, subsidies, or other programs (i.e., military bases, national parks, etc..) that a Civil war is impractical.
The coordination required for a Civil war requires a homogeneous enough region that can economically sustain the majority of it's partisan base separate from the other regions that it is attempting to split off from.

Once you start talking about "well, we kick the military bases out, and get rid of all those socialist Medicare and Social Security programs, and those Farm Subsidies, and that Highway fund, and take over those National Parks and Federal Lands, and then all those Federal Contractors go away, and we cut taxes on the rich, so we don't have enough revenue, and....ummm, ummm,

No, if you want a "Red State Rising" in this country now-days, there are two methods: political infiltration from within, or the purchase of legislative powers and legal processes.
For political infiltration, you need to get an active public approval by a majority to marginalize or otherwise criminalize about 2/3rds of the citizenry of the country, because that's what it would take to overthrow the Constitution. The problem is that historically, getting majority public approval for anything is difficult to begin with and almost impossible now, what with instant communications and access to information (no matter how accurate or factual that information is...). A "Pearl Harbor" event is the closest type of event that can solidify a political coup, but such events are short-lived, and the effort to keep a 400+ million people in enough of a state of rage and terror to hand over the reins of power to authority figures in a false-flag based coup attempt is very tricky to pull off successfully without getting really messy and committing mass atrocities to maintain the position of power.

Purchase of a government and theft of civil rights and the Constitution is much easier, with less complicated pieces to keep track of. That's pretty much the way the current GOP has been operating since Nixon - theft of government through privatization. The problem with that is that thieves always fall out when the profit becomes too large to resist, and starts impacting a large majority of people who are otherwise perfectly happy if they remain secure in their social positions.
There's also the problem of the echo chamber and the risks inherent when purchasing one's own realities. Once the majority come to the realization that they are no longer a citizen in the eyes of a corporate government, there's nothing left to lose. And the citizenry always outnumbers the ownership class.

Haele

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Ludicrous click-bait crap. Coyotl Nov 2016 #2
I didn't write it, but I don't think it's outrageous. smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #11
I doubt it mshasta Nov 2016 #3
I would very much like to meet the Republicans you describe Orrex Nov 2016 #8
Surrounded Bear Creek Nov 2016 #39
Lol, well it would be a short one. thejoker123 Nov 2016 #5
Uh, really? philosslayer Nov 2016 #7
I think you need to get off the CPU for a while. :) thejoker123 Nov 2016 #21
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #41
Clickbait fearmongering Jason1961 Nov 2016 #9
Yes, it is, but it's not going to happen in this country. smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #13
It's past time to take them on Jason1961 Nov 2016 #14
If we are moving toward some "proto" insurrection, then gun-control/bans are too late... Eleanors38 Nov 2016 #30
Wouldn't be a Civil War, it would be a Coup attempt. haele Nov 2016 #10
Thank you for your post! smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #33
Somebody ripped off the Onion. Kilgore Nov 2016 #15
It's a comedy website. smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #16
No. Things were far worse in the late 1960s. Far worse. Yavin4 Nov 2016 #17
The article is right about one thing. MicaelS Nov 2016 #19
This is nutty stuff, delete it. Impossible. N/t ScienceIsGood Nov 2016 #20
Not highly likely, but not all that far fetched and certainly not smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #34
Impossible. President Obama is still CIC until mid-January. Amonester Nov 2016 #22
One thing you are forgetting - a lot of these nuts ARE the police force and smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #35
I think you skip the Police part, because there are laws that don't permit... Amonester Nov 2016 #40
If it happens, we'll finally have something to thank GWB for. sofa king Nov 2016 #23
I'd suggest watching the Shin Godzilla movie Blue_Adept Nov 2016 #25
Shattering the national psyche would be the objective. sofa king Nov 2016 #28
I love that so many people are writing it off as clickbait Blue_Adept Nov 2016 #24
I think the nutjobs like watching their NASCAR & Football so much... Amonester Nov 2016 #27
I agree. It's not like the author is pulling this out of his ass. He has actually talked to some smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #31
Not happening.... beachbum bob Nov 2016 #26
I don't think these nutcases are going to try to take over the government, but I do think smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #36
There is a reason white wing racists are so into guns and crud. Hoyt Nov 2016 #29
Hyperbole tenderfoot Nov 2016 #37
It's Cracked, they're known for that sort of thing. Initech Nov 2016 #38
Cracked is cracked out. romanic Nov 2016 #42
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