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In reply to the discussion: 6 Reasons Why A New Civil War Is Possible And Terrifying [View all]haele
(15,017 posts)Even in strong red states - well, except for maybe Kansas and Oklahoma, you have a diverse enough demographic and enough economic reliance on Federal assistance, subsidies, or other programs (i.e., military bases, national parks, etc..) that a Civil war is impractical.
The coordination required for a Civil war requires a homogeneous enough region that can economically sustain the majority of it's partisan base separate from the other regions that it is attempting to split off from.
Once you start talking about "well, we kick the military bases out, and get rid of all those socialist Medicare and Social Security programs, and those Farm Subsidies, and that Highway fund, and take over those National Parks and Federal Lands, and then all those Federal Contractors go away, and we cut taxes on the rich, so we don't have enough revenue, and....ummm, ummm,
No, if you want a "Red State Rising" in this country now-days, there are two methods: political infiltration from within, or the purchase of legislative powers and legal processes.
For political infiltration, you need to get an active public approval by a majority to marginalize or otherwise criminalize about 2/3rds of the citizenry of the country, because that's what it would take to overthrow the Constitution. The problem is that historically, getting majority public approval for anything is difficult to begin with and almost impossible now, what with instant communications and access to information (no matter how accurate or factual that information is...). A "Pearl Harbor" event is the closest type of event that can solidify a political coup, but such events are short-lived, and the effort to keep a 400+ million people in enough of a state of rage and terror to hand over the reins of power to authority figures in a false-flag based coup attempt is very tricky to pull off successfully without getting really messy and committing mass atrocities to maintain the position of power.
Purchase of a government and theft of civil rights and the Constitution is much easier, with less complicated pieces to keep track of. That's pretty much the way the current GOP has been operating since Nixon - theft of government through privatization. The problem with that is that thieves always fall out when the profit becomes too large to resist, and starts impacting a large majority of people who are otherwise perfectly happy if they remain secure in their social positions.
There's also the problem of the echo chamber and the risks inherent when purchasing one's own realities. Once the majority come to the realization that they are no longer a citizen in the eyes of a corporate government, there's nothing left to lose. And the citizenry always outnumbers the ownership class.
Haele