Is there a group of people trying to convince us that there is no election fraud in this Country?

[TheKentuckian]

17. At least on our side, I believe we have been goaded into be the "government" party

in reaction the TeaPubliKlan essentially becoming the anti-government party and with that comes a defense of about any establishment institution no matter how dubious or obviously flawed or even failed they are because such concerns day add depth to the broad anti-government/distrust of institutions rhetoric of the opposition which results in a whole less focus on functional systems, good policy, quality and effectiveness of legislation, oversight, and law, transparency, or even if things are working or not and toward supporting government and established institutions for it's own sake, some figuring that "we'll fix it later" once the anti-government threat backs off some.

Voting goes dead to the heart of this delusional stance, if you question elections then you are effectively questioning the system it is used to populate. If the elections are crooked then there is little room for confidence in the actual machinery of government which plays into the TeaPubliKlan rhetoric and public disenchantment and distrust even if it is the TeaPubliKlans corrupting the system, better to pretend the system is essentially incorruptible and that no public person would actually lack the decency to cheat.

They don't want to risk sounding asinine and outright claim the cheating ass TeaPubliKlans don't cheat and they don't want the system questioned (especially when we are nominally running things) so the "third way" is to say prove it. Never mind that the impossibility of proving it is about at the root of the concerns.
They would love proof that could be used against the TeaPubliKlans but minus that smoking gun they want silence on the subject because it is not pro-government, pro-system, or pro-establishment.

A step further, we have some folks so married to the system that they would rather have the TeaPubliKlans run the show than risk any disruption and certainly are fine with assimilating their policies as long as it broadly maintains the status quo and builds acceptance of government which all their policies are designed to undercut or use the institutions we have to transfer power and wealth to the few.