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jg10003

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21. Pence is a right-wing religious ideologue, but at least he is not a wannabe strongman.

Fri Nov 18, 2016, 12:47 AM

Nov 2016

Trump is an existential threat to the republic. Pence merely has bad policy ideas. Trump wants to be the American version of Putin. Pence is just very conservative. The Republic can survive a President Pence. If Pence is president then we can elect Elizabeth Warren in 4 years and get the country back on track. But the constitutional republic that has endured for 228 years may not survive President Trump.

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David Freaking Frum- We Might Have To Remove Trump Due To Psychological Problems [View all] KittyWampus Nov 2016 OP

Over the period of this campaign, we have found out who the real conservatives are, versus the... Hekate Nov 2016 #1

I believe this is true Dorian Gray Nov 2016 #35

And the flat out opportunists PatSeg Nov 2016 #51

Removing Trump means President Pence. We're fucked either way. LonePirate Nov 2016 #2

Yep. Pence wants to turn the USA into a theocracy Zorro Nov 2016 #3

Pence is the Star Wars defence system protecting Trump as president. TeamPooka Nov 2016 #28

Like Quayle was for Bush Feeling the Bern Nov 2016 #29

Yup... 2naSalit Nov 2016 #31

Pence is a right-wing religious ideologue, but at least he is not a wannabe strongman. jg10003 Nov 2016 #21

I have to agree. This would be an act of desperation, but Trump is insane. Silver Gaia Nov 2016 #42

I concur Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #52

It buys us one thing, it will create a delay to go through the process, and that delay might still_one Nov 2016 #22

I agree with this, too. Silver Gaia Nov 2016 #43

Good point Patiod Nov 2016 #48

"slow down some of the damage they can cause" - that goes for Trump's wordpix Nov 2016 #56

of course still_one Nov 2016 #57

Vox's Matthew Iglesias feels that a Prez Pence would avoid the worst Hortensis Nov 2016 #60

Excellent, chilling article. Thanks. EOM Ruth Bonner Nov 2016 #67

While Pence is abhorrent, Indiana is still livable. Can one truly live in Trump's vision of America? TheBlackAdder Nov 2016 #66

Let's get that train *going*!1 The whole country should have seen the whackness from Day 1 UTUSN Nov 2016 #4

David Frum has been beside himself since the primaries ended. madaboutharry Nov 2016 #5

I used to read his Frum Forum column during the 2012 primaries LeftInTX Nov 2016 #6

Flynn is also Turkish dictator Erdogan's paid lap dog LeftInTX Nov 2016 #7

but, but... I thought Trump was giving the boot to lobbyists? Ligyron Nov 2016 #47

and took from the Russian Government to speak and sat RIGHT next to Putin. bench scientist Nov 2016 #58

Is that Jill Stein in the picture too? LisaM Nov 2016 #63

THIS is what should be all over the TV machine tonight. annabanana Nov 2016 #62

Isn't it a strange time when we find commonality with Frum and Glenn Beck? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2016 #8

Very strange, indeed. tosh Nov 2016 #14

no, politics makes strange bedfellows Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #15

Coalitions are built in the US within parties before the election, rather than between parties tblue37 Nov 2016 #24

you are thinking in binary mode again, and also straight jacketing yourself by erecting Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #25

Look. We have a two party system in the US. It's a fact. kcr Nov 2016 #34

I have a degree in Political Science, amongst others, I am well aware of the deepest Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #37

Pretty Scary peggysue2 Nov 2016 #16

I take Frum at his word. Beck is simply building a new persona so he can keep on keeping' on. Stinky The Clown Nov 2016 #19

Because Dorian Gray Nov 2016 #36

Frum is a neocon. Trump isn't. Wilms Nov 2016 #9

It's more than that radical noodle Nov 2016 #12

Frum has been very vocal against Trump radical noodle Nov 2016 #10

Better brush up on the 25th Amendment if Trump wins (from August) Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #11

I had just found this. I'm glad someone has already shared it. nt Quackers Nov 2016 #68

He was referencing Section 4... Wounded Bear Nov 2016 #13

That's what they want. To remove him and have Pence question everything Nov 2016 #17

So then we get Pence CanonRay Nov 2016 #18

At the moment burrowowl Nov 2016 #20

What happens if proud patriot Nov 2016 #23

Yes. I've been really looking forward to cilla4progress Nov 2016 #26

And the clock ticked up a couple of seconds. lonestarnot Nov 2016 #27

"President Pence" are the only two words scarier than "President Trump" n/t TygrBright Nov 2016 #30

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2016 #38

he did say "it's very hard to do". DesertFlower Nov 2016 #32

Why do I keep thinking of the Bataan Death March? world wide wally Nov 2016 #33

That's a good way to describe it. That's pretty much exactly how I feel. smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #40

I actually feel like it's just before Katrina hit. We were on DU and the meteorologists KNEW KittyWampus Nov 2016 #46

The coming Theocracy willl not be pretty HAB911 Nov 2016 #39

I'm guessing it will not apply to taxes Patiod Nov 2016 #49

It will open Pandora's Box HAB911 Nov 2016 #50

I don't sense the Pence will cancel our democracy, and we can beat him at the ballot box Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #53

Gee, I wish I had your goggles HAB911 Nov 2016 #54

If he is removed as a looney toon, how can they justify a looney tunes choice for VP? boston bean Nov 2016 #41

frum wants pence. spanone Nov 2016 #44

With the lobbyist grip on the House members BSdetect Nov 2016 #45

Frum needs to check under his car every morning - Trumple won't like that! wordpix Nov 2016 #55

The idea was actually floated in August on TheHill. Quackers Nov 2016 #69

Who is the logical successor to Trump views? Trump is unfit and proving himself moreso daily. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2016 #59

K&R red dog 1 Nov 2016 #61

Jeff Zucker is just salivating over the prospect. duffyduff Nov 2016 #64

If there is any way to rid us of Trump before........... mrmpa Nov 2016 #65