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Buckeye_Democrat

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47. I just don't think it helps to put it in terms of skin color.
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 06:47 PM
Nov 2016

I understand that a majority of white people, even white women, voted for Trump. Not all of them did (including me), and I'd prefer to not be "profiled" for their actions anymore than African Americans. There's several white folks who aren't doing well. I've worked alongside many of them in factories over the years. Some of the poorest counties in this country are in mostly-white former coal mining areas too. I hope Democrats will frame arguments in terms of class because I think there's a large number of untapped votes there. We're all going down the drain if people remain divisive about something as silly as skin color.

We're ALL related and we ALL came from Africa, some more recently than others. In fact, dark-skinned Africans from the NE part of that continent are more closely related, genetically, to all other "races" of people than they are to dark-skinned Africans from other areas. It's because our ancestors were in Africa for far longer than the time it's taken to spread out to the rest of the planet. Skin color lightened over time because whiter skin converts sunlight to Vitamin D more easily, so people covered in thick clothing in less-sunny areas were more prone to rickets than to sunburn in those conditions (especially if their diet wasn't rich in Vitamin D from sources such as fish).

Segregation hasn't helped matters. I think lots of people have very faulty ideas about each other. I've seen white people talk like they think most African Americans are on welfare. I've also seen African Americans talk like they think white folks are all living on easy street. Meanwhile, we're too divided as a small number of psychopaths trample others to fulfill their short-sighted and self-serving goals, like it's happened so often in human history.

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I keep saying that we can't forget that half the population is below average. TreasonousBastard Nov 2016 #1
That is not true. MoonRiver Nov 2016 #9
I think it would be more apt to say... Javaman Nov 2016 #12
Yes MoonRiver Nov 2016 #13
So .... it's not true that half the population is below average? Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #21
The norms for the most commonly given IQ tests, Wechsler, are as follows: MoonRiver Nov 2016 #29
Ya just had ta quibble, didn't ya... TreasonousBastard Nov 2016 #38
I just had this conversation with my husband, who has a Ph.D in statistics. MoonRiver Nov 2016 #48
1st off, half the people don't vote. Then of those who did, he got 47% NightWatcher Nov 2016 #2
Forget Trump for a second. Yavin4 Nov 2016 #15
actually far less than that voted for Trump-- maybe only 28% at best Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #3
61 million MFM008 Nov 2016 #4
Amen. / nt Sunny05 Nov 2016 #5
I'd bump that up to 45% crosinski Nov 2016 #6
5% leaning shitty Generator Nov 2016 #59
Clinton was generous when she said only half of those Trump supporters were deplorable. deurbano Nov 2016 #7
"African Americans and Latinos are more working class than White people are"... jalan48 Nov 2016 #8
It's a fact. A higher percentage of African Americans and Latinos are working poor compared to Yavin4 Nov 2016 #16
I don't disagree about the working poor. jalan48 Nov 2016 #27
We're NOT in this together. Yavin4 Nov 2016 #28
You are over generalizing. jalan48 Nov 2016 #30
Enough of them do to wreck serious harm to any progressive agenda Yavin4 Nov 2016 #31
And what pattern might that be? We have a great progressive Rep who happens to be white in my state. jalan48 Nov 2016 #32
Shitty, selfish and stupid. I love this thread. Auggie Nov 2016 #10
No, they're not. trotsky Nov 2016 #11
I call BS Skittles Nov 2016 #23
Yep. There are people who like to do that more than they want health care or education. Yavin4 Nov 2016 #35
there really is no reasoning with them Skittles Nov 2016 #36
they are authoritarians reaching out to them treestar Nov 2016 #45
This!!!! treestar Nov 2016 #46
Surely not? DFW Nov 2016 #14
I blame drivetime talk radio.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #17
Agreed - womanofthehills Nov 2016 #19
So, for the most part, I agree.. mountain grammy Nov 2016 #18
Wow. Well, that attitude really sucks and isn't going to change anything. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #20
Any positive change will be undone by shitty people Yavin4 Nov 2016 #24
When has that never been true? jberryhill Nov 2016 #34
Honestly it's not white middle class communities we need to reach out to. It's farmers. Initech Nov 2016 #22
I don't care. Yavin4 Nov 2016 #25
Remember when that was only 29%? WhiteTara Nov 2016 #26
Misinformed, not really bright, and constantly insulted instead of educated jberryhill Nov 2016 #33
It indeed doesn't help to insult them. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #37
Truly, though, they don't deserve respect this late in the game. duffyduff Nov 2016 #41
I agree they insult us treestar Nov 2016 #44
I just don't think it helps to put it in terms of skin color. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #47
Tell me with a serious face these aren't WHITE males. Minorities are NOT voting for Trump. duffyduff Nov 2016 #49
White people put Trump in office, there's no doubt. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #53
It usually starts in the home. duffyduff Nov 2016 #40
Yep. At least when it comes to the voting booth. n/t duffyduff Nov 2016 #39
On the bright side, humans do not fall under Sturgeon's Law csziggy Nov 2016 #42
Buy a clue. We don't need the racist, sexist vote. duffyduff Nov 2016 #50
With your power of persuasion I'm sure we can convince millions to our side csziggy Nov 2016 #52
Trump wasn't rude? Yavin4 Nov 2016 #54
We need to be better than Trump not as obnoxious as he is csziggy Nov 2016 #55
Good luck with that Yavin4 Nov 2016 #56
Being shitty back to them just makes them worse csziggy Nov 2016 #57
Right on. treestar Nov 2016 #43
That fact depresses me the most. madaboutharry Nov 2016 #51
KICK DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2016 #58
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