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Scruffy1

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22. Cheer up.
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 11:36 PM
Nov 2016

This country has always had its dark side. This goes back to colonial times, so it's nothing new. I think the big reason people get disillusioned is because they've been fed the PR version of America. What we consider "free speech" didn't even exist until the 1920's. Eugene Debs was given ten tears for saying he thought the draft was unconstitutional in World War I. The Supremes backed it 9-0. This included Brandeis and Holmes. And yet new court rulings in the later 1920's won freedom of speech. This is the Harry Truman view of history. We take two steps forward and one backwards. When the powers that be overplay their hand, there is a reaction. Lately the media has been putting a muzzle on it, but I think by now they have lost any credibility, and so I am looking forward to organizing the reaction to the Dumpster fire. When his outhouse of cards burns down there will be a huge reaction and maybe we'll finally get some structural change, which has been lacking for fifty years. If we keep battering at the door long enough we will break it down. Politics is like hockey. It's what you do when you don't have the puck that wins the game. Organize and fight.
Just because 25% of the people got suckered doesn't mean that the other 75% plus those ineligible are powerless. Power depends upon compliance and he's getting zip from me.

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You are not wrong edhopper Nov 2016 #1
The impact of this election will be with us for years. still_one Nov 2016 #2
Exactly the response which will bring more of the same. pipoman Nov 2016 #4
Their actions have insured that will be the case regardless. Zypher Teachout, still_one Nov 2016 #5
We have lost the presidency, the house and the senate... pipoman Nov 2016 #9
Its time to stop fighting among ourselves. kydo Nov 2016 #11
Wow... pipoman Nov 2016 #20
The end of the US as a democracy! IMO it's likely to become a brutal place to live. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2016 #3
That's the ol' losing spirit. We are in grave times, Hortensis Nov 2016 #13
I think election 2016 will be the point where people look back & say, CrispyQ Nov 2016 #6
Sadly, I agree. narnian60 Nov 2016 #7
I lost faith back in 2000 2naSalit Nov 2016 #8
I was done in 2004. wildeyed Nov 2016 #10
Me too, when GW got a 2nd term Martin Eden Nov 2016 #23
What I'm worried about is that someone is going to declare war on us. Initech Nov 2016 #12
who would declare war? Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #27
He may always drop dead MFM008 Nov 2016 #14
I've lost COMPLETE faith in the media, MORE REPORTING ON EMAILS THAN ALL ISSUES COMBINED uponit7771 Nov 2016 #15
Can't make free speech illegal treestar Nov 2016 #16
In the normal world you would be 100% correct kydo Nov 2016 #17
How much transparency can we force in him? I think he'll not use govt servers himself bettyellen Nov 2016 #18
So have I. There are just too many ignorant, hateful, stupid people in this country and smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #19
I have certainly lost faith in the political process bhikkhu Nov 2016 #21
Cheer up. Scruffy1 Nov 2016 #22
This is why I stopped trying to fight Climate Change. briv1016 Nov 2016 #24
How about the critters Duppers Nov 2016 #25
Until the younger generations get off their collective asses....... calguy Nov 2016 #26
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