Is there a group of people trying to convince us that there is no election fraud in this Country?

[TheKentuckian]

65. Anytime the burden of proof is on those prohibited from access to it

That is room enough for questioning the system to me.

The whole argument is a distraction. This debate has been going on for years and it ever and always turns away from the actual point which is transparency in the system with independently verifiable results.
It doesn't matter if you believe cheating is going on with the count or not, it should just be a discoverable fact.

There is no need in the world to prove anything to demand and expect transparent election tabulations.
Of course there have always been methods of frauding the system and they continue to be exercised, having the best navy doesn't keep one from striving for the top air force as well but that remains a distraction from having transparent and verifiable tabulation no matter how well reasoned, simple, or even true points might be.

Of course you stumble into reasonable doubt when a manufacturer of the equipment with proprietary coding states in front of God and everybody that he is going to do everything he can to help a candidate win, your mileage may vary but that is more than plenty for me to actively distrust over and above the default distrust of the basic premise of system no one can check.
Not to get back into the distraction but just being fair on my point of view, I see no need to play a false neutral. I do think their are shenanigans but even if you don't what is the argument against fair and open elections?