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Va Lefty

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30. You're free to draw any implications you feel are valid

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:11 PM

Nov 2016

I would support getting rid of the Electoral College. That's not gonna happen.

Yes I have a "pretty bleak" view of the future and our fellow americans. Shit is going to get a lot worse before it even thinks about getting better.

the pukes now have almost enough State Legislators to call for a Constitutional Convention. How scary is that?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/constitutional-convention-explainer/

I am a 54 year old, straight, white male living in red Virginia. I have cut ties with at least 12 people I have known and considered "friends" my whole life since the election. I am angered and sickened by the stupid!

I really haven't seen any solid evidence that this election was hacked or stolen. I would refer you to TPM and Josh Marshall's column on this:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/those-russian-election-hacking-claims

It sucks but we live in a shitty world and I weep for the future.

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Trump did not win [View all] edhopper Nov 2016 OP

It should never have been close enough for them to steal it, if they did Va Lefty Nov 2016 #1

this is true edhopper Nov 2016 #5

I'm unwilling to accept that Democrats only deserve to win if the vote is overwhelming. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #8

correct; that's what we're being told. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #18

No that is not what I was trying to say Va Lefty Nov 2016 #25

Yet that's a clear implication from what you said. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #27

You're free to draw any implications you feel are valid Va Lefty Nov 2016 #30

Not a very encouraging reply, advocating the view that we are helpless. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #32

what examples edhopper Nov 2016 #35

Usually these are given as examples of failure to fight. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #36

of course not edhopper Nov 2016 #38

So, you want to share your hopelessness? bigmonkey Nov 2016 #40

I do feel pretty hopeless edhopper Nov 2016 #42

You may be intended to feel hopeless. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #45

I await a sign that I am not right edhopper Nov 2016 #47

Boy, are you determined to have the last, depressing word. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #48

I thought you were asking for a response edhopper Nov 2016 #51

May you see the value of standing up for what's right. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #52

We are all going through our stages of grief over this. Chemisse Nov 2016 #60

Thank you. Wisest post on this thread. smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #62

"no sign anybody with any authority will fight him..." Duppers Nov 2016 #59

I'd phrase it this way shawn703 Nov 2016 #39

we underestimated edhopper Nov 2016 #43

I read the post as drmeow Nov 2016 #54

Maybe it wasn't. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #55

I think the reason the overwhelming majority is mentioned kcr Nov 2016 #56

That may be, but the statement normalizes a perverse idea. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #57

Just pointing out the actual reason and intent behind it, here. kcr Nov 2016 #58

Hillary could have gotten 5 million more votes and still lost the electoral college. pnwmom Nov 2016 #17

"Stupid" is apparently a synonym for "sexist." MADem Nov 2016 #65

Rutherfraud B Trump. roamer65 Nov 2016 #2

And 52% voted against Hillary Travis_0004 Nov 2016 #11

What kind of Math is that? Perseus Nov 2016 #20

48% of people voted for Hillary. Therefore 52% did not vote for her. Travis_0004 Nov 2016 #28

53 percent beats 52. N/t roamer65 Nov 2016 #50

HILLARY WON THE POPULAR VOTE, thank you very much. niyad Nov 2016 #22

And votes are still being counted, with her lead expected spooky3 Nov 2016 #61

I am so hoping that the recounts will be demanded. we cannot have that hate-mongering, niyad Nov 2016 #72

That and 5 awoke_in_2003 Nov 2016 #64

WTF we can do it Nov 2016 #37

And 53% voted against Trump LeftishBrit Nov 2016 #41

He didn't "win" anything MFM008 Nov 2016 #53

Americans are TOTALLY cilla4progress Nov 2016 #3

Oh yeah Achilleaze Nov 2016 #4

He couldn't have done it without gerrymandering. lpbk2713 Nov 2016 #6

(sigh) dumbcat Nov 2016 #10

How do you gerrymander the electoral college??????? Travis_0004 Nov 2016 #14

The election of the President hasn't happened yet. dumbcat Nov 2016 #7

Hillary was most popular. We ARE the majority. tinrobot Nov 2016 #9

We are the only ones that matter, even if he had won the popular vote. ileus Nov 2016 #12

Abso-fuckin-lutely! ananda Nov 2016 #13

won't matter, but you're right, it's going to be Bush all over. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #15

Except 100,000,000 times worse ailsagirl Nov 2016 #21

I thought Bush was a moron, and he was... apcalc Nov 2016 #26

Is America ready for Republicans to pass constitutional amendments? IronLionZion Nov 2016 #16

An Amemdment needs 2/3 of Congress edhopper Nov 2016 #31

i don't think the repubs would risk a convention in any case. Calista241 Nov 2016 #44

I understand your feelings, and I do share them, but... Perseus Nov 2016 #19

I agree edhopper Nov 2016 #63

We must refer to it as "Electoral College Recipient" treestar Nov 2016 #23

Trump did win, but.... SeloverB Nov 2016 #24

The media is billing Trump's win as a huuuuge electorial win, overwelming victory doc03 Nov 2016 #29

They are just bragging about how powerful they are world wide wally Nov 2016 #34

Trump just shit on the egos of a lot of ego-full media personalities. McCamy Taylor Nov 2016 #68

Hey everyone edhopper Nov 2016 #33

Trumps projected popular vote deficit equals all of Clintons votes in 12 states: Coyotl Nov 2016 #46

definitely not. barbtries Nov 2016 #49

So, how do we convince mainstream America that he did not win? Talk about Russia. McCamy Taylor Nov 2016 #66

Second: Talk about how the hackers are calling Americans "dumb" and how we've been "cheated." McCamy Taylor Nov 2016 #67

Third: the press is mad as hell. Use their anger. Massage their egos at the same time. McCamy Taylor Nov 2016 #69

Four: characterize the recount as the "Challenge". Americans love to Challenge. McCamy Taylor Nov 2016 #70

K&R Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #71