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Yo_Mama

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29. It would be a stupid, stupid move. Obama isn't stupid.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:35 PM
Nov 2016

First, constitutionally Garland could only be appointed to the SC for less than one year - recess appts are temporary.

Any possible gain would be minimal, and the possible negatives are pretty large. Standing constitutional precedent is that a recess appointment for Garland may not be made unless Congress adjourns for ten days, and it appears Congress will not.

So Obama would be setting himself and, by implication, the Democratic party up for a constitutional rebuff right when it would really hurt the party; trying to make an unconstitutional recess appointment would be a political lightning rod that could only hurt the person/party that attempts it.

My reading of the polls is that Obama will go out of office as a really popular figure, and he will be a strong rallying point for the future party. I would assume that throwing that away (historically, populations have reacted very negatively to end-runs around the constitutional SC appointment process, even for FDR) for a basically symbolic gesture is not anything that our current president would even consider.

I don't like not holding the hearings for Garland, but Congress could have done so and rejected him. It wouldn't change the result, would it?

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If he did it would only last 1 year correct? SHRED Nov 2016 #1
I don't know. got a source? yurbud Nov 2016 #2
but it would help for a year Horse with no Name Nov 2016 #21
Yes. Drunken Irishman Nov 2016 #26
I picked "other" because I don't believe he can seat him n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #3
My preference would be to filibuster for four years if necessary. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #4
The other side of that coin is that a lot of law can be decided in our favor over the next 2 years. Lil Missy Nov 2016 #9
great point yurbud Nov 2016 #10
Much depends on who the Trump nominee will be. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #14
You are assuming the filibuster will still exist. I am waiting to see what will happen with that. stevenleser Nov 2016 #22
Mitch McConnell did warn Harry Reid about partially eliminating the filibuster. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #28
I think we can forget about using the filibuster. world wide wally Nov 2016 #5
With the advice and consent of the Senate. longship Nov 2016 #6
The appointment would be for about 11 months: femmocrat Nov 2016 #7
The 115th Congress will end in 2019 SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #8
A "session" is not a term. FBaggins Nov 2016 #19
I doubt the Republicans will chance a complete recess for just that reason. WillowTree Nov 2016 #16
In all likelihood... not even that long FBaggins Nov 2016 #17
Fuck it,withdraw his name and seat Hillary or Bernie! libtodeath Nov 2016 #11
Just do it President Obama, there is nothing to lose to TRY. Sunlei Nov 2016 #12
Perhaps Obama can test the "pro forma" pretense of the Senate... Silent3 Nov 2016 #13
He already tested it SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #18
what you said yurbud Nov 2016 #20
NLRB - lost big time. SC said it was unconstitutional. Yo_Mama Nov 2016 #30
Other - he probably doesn't have a choice. FBaggins Nov 2016 #15
Can he really do it? BainsBane Nov 2016 #23
Obama does not have the option to "seat" Garland without Senate confirmation. tritsofme Nov 2016 #24
What happens if you don't file court papers on time? yurbud Nov 2016 #25
there is no time period laid out in the Constitution for Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #27
The president is not a dictator, as we would take well to remember. tritsofme Nov 2016 #31
the media and very wealthy, allow presidents to flout the Constitution when it suits them yurbud Nov 2016 #32
It would be a stupid, stupid move. Obama isn't stupid. Yo_Mama Nov 2016 #29
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