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GregD

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40. This is about more than this one election
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:21 PM
Nov 2016

See my post here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2624406

Lots of folks worked on the BBV issue in 2003-2004. Bev Harris at BlackBoxVoting.org has been working on this for over a decade. The polarization that Trump has created may finally generate the interest in this topic, and based on their surpassing $5M today, that's just what is happening.

Why the bad attitude? Yes, there is an argument that the Green's lost the race for Clinton by dividing the vote. But the good news is that she has the standing to press a case that many of us have made for years - BBV sucks and we have to get rid of corporate-owned voting machine software, along with non-verifiable touch-screen voting systems. The Clinton campaign had the option to do so and they made a different decision. So go Jill!

We have to look at this in a positive light. It's about the future much more than it is about today. Only through supporting the recount and highlighting widely and loudly how f'ed up our electoral system is might we achieve change.

And WTF, what if it actually turned up fraud and we turned around the election? That is a long reach but hey, if everyone contributes what they can, is it not worth the risk? How much did we all contribute to various campaigns trying to win the election?

Support the recount! It's for our kids...

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