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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 03:02 PM Nov 2016

Recount Won't Change the Election, Since Pennsylvania Has No Paper Trail [View all]

Before we start celebrating, remember one thing---you can not "recount" a hacked electronic vote if there is no paper trail, and Pennsylvania has no paper trail.

The Stein/Green effort to "recount" votes will likely result in a switch of two states' electoral votes. But it won't be enough to unseat Trump. It will make Americans leery of e-voting---when they see two states change, they will wonder "What about the third?" It will help the Greens in their valiant effort to raise awareness of the dangers of e-voting without a paper trail. More states may do what California did and future elections will be more accurate----

But that will not do a thing for the 20,000,000 Americans who will lose their ACA insurance or the seniors who will lose Medicare or the schools that will be underfunded or the children who will be forced to work or the women who will have to seek do it yourself abortions.

So, yeah, by all means "recount" the vote---where it can be counted. But we need to challenge the vote in those states where it was obviously hacked. That means let some reputable computer scientists look at the code, check for malware, make sure there are no funny alterations in vote tallies--hint, once the urban vote came in, they would have known just how much they needed to adjust the rural vote.

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They can alway audit the machines. RandySF Nov 2016 #1
E-voting machines should print a summary of the vote when done pandr32 Nov 2016 #2
Ohio ag turned off the audit feature in ohio . So no audit here either Ohioblue22 Nov 2016 #3
omfg... and if a dem did this DPutin would put the person in jail uponit7771 Nov 2016 #5
yep, can't be undermining confidence in the election stealing equipment. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #11
Then I would argue that Ohio's electoral votes be nullified due to malfeasance KittyWampus Nov 2016 #14
Sounds good to me! ananda Nov 2016 #15
Please be careful with the truth. There's enough fake news on the other side of the aisle. Ms. Toad Nov 2016 #17
thank you ... eom Kolesar Dec 2016 #24
this says that counties "may choose" to turn off audit feature. still f*cked up. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #25
Some parts of PA might, but the all important Philadelphia County does not. n/t pnwmom Nov 2016 #4
?? Philly machines print to a paper tape. Barack_America Nov 2016 #12
Is there a trend that cities (more Dems) use paper milestogo Nov 2016 #20
it wont matter demtenjeep Nov 2016 #6
Wow you don't miss a beat! Dream Girl Nov 2016 #21
PA does test the machines creeksneakers2 Nov 2016 #7
when, how often, and how many machines? nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #9
I reread it creeksneakers2 Nov 2016 #18
and how would they find a discrepancy without some testing, recounting? it's a catch-22. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #22
probably won't change the outcome, but if discrepancies come to light it could convince people TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #8
i think it's a good thing for a democracy....we'll see what it reveals, if anything. spanone Nov 2016 #10
The audit the machines and highlight the lack of verity. KittyWampus Nov 2016 #13
It's highly unlikely the result will change in any of the 3 states n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #16
Raising the awareness of the dangers of e-voting without a paper trail milestogo Nov 2016 #19
precisely. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #23
I had heard concerns about Diebold voting machines at least a decade ago NRQ891 Dec 2016 #26
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