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DFW

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14. My daughters were just there for two weeks. Rented a car and drove around the whole country
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 06:20 AM
Nov 2016

First if all, there was no trace whatsoever of people feeling like "the world coming to an end." On the contrary, they said the people were very friendly, and somewhat upbeat due to the re-opening of diplomatic relations and the hope for an end to the commercial embargo. If there is one thing Republicans hate more than "kommanists," it's passing up a chance to make money. The loosening of regulations permitting some small private enterprise was also appreciated. If there was some apprehension about an invasion sponsored by exiles/descendants thereof, it was kept a secret. Although few people in the countryside speak English or German, one of my daughters' friends was along, and her fluent Italian was enough to communicate.

When I was there, it was as an invited guest of the government, and so I did not have the freedom to move around that my daughters did. Also, it was during the days of Soviet domination, and dominate they did. Castro obviously appreciated the financial boost, but the Russians strutted around like they owned the place, which, in their eyes, they did. In one instance, I even had to interpret back and forth in a situation where some Soviets were yelling at some poor Cuban saleswoman who spoke no Russian and had no idea what they wanted. They spoke no Spanish (I speak both), and they felt it was the Cubans' responsibility to be fluent in Russian. Some of the government people were, of course, but the common people weren't.

I also think the notion that Bill Clinton would have invaded Cuba had an election yielded anything but a rightist government is straight out of Putin's Book of Fairy Tales. Cheney might have (Bush would have had to ask his brother where the country was on the map), and who knows what the hell Trump might do, although his idea of a successful invasion is more likely to be a Trump Tower in Varadero rather than bombing the place to bits.

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so why didn't they hold the elections after the fall of the soviet union ? JI7 Nov 2016 #1
1) By that time, the mindset was already entrenched; Ken Burch Nov 2016 #5
Because US Imperialism continues? Cooley Hurd Nov 2016 #7
Of course it does. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #26
I just got back from a Cuba trip to see some family. Mika Nov 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Nov 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Mika Nov 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Nov 2016 #8
What are you going on about? Mika Nov 2016 #9
Sorry. I misinterpreted your posts. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #10
We're cool. Mika Nov 2016 #11
Thanks. n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #12
The US was only concerned if Cuba was fully privatized JonLP24 Nov 2016 #4
Thank you for this post. 🤗 pangaia Nov 2016 #13
My daughters were just there for two weeks. Rented a car and drove around the whole country DFW Nov 2016 #14
There are elections in Cuba malaise Nov 2016 #15
But not free and open elections. hack89 Nov 2016 #16
Which party is allowed to oppose capitalism in the US? malaise Nov 2016 #17
Green Party. Communist party. Party for Socialism and Liberation. hack89 Nov 2016 #18
The Green party and Party for Socialism and Liberation malaise Nov 2016 #19
Stop evading the question hack89 Nov 2016 #20
What exactly is Democracy? malaise Nov 2016 #21
Peaceful transition of power between groups with different political and economic ideologies hack89 Nov 2016 #22
That "test" was something the US kept failing in its relationship with Latin America, Ken Burch Nov 2016 #23
Given Castro's prolific interventions in other countries hack89 Nov 2016 #25
How about the U.S. Constitution? The Electoral College effectively vetoes alternative parties. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #24
None. Capitalism is the underlying framework for the governmental system. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #27
I really think "whataboutism" is one of our worst rhetorical tendencies forjusticethunders Nov 2016 #28
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