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Judi Lynn

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18. Are you unware it was the CIA who created that rumor which got the middle & upper class parents,
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 07:10 AM
Nov 2016

terrified that their children would be put in camps, or sent to the Soviet Union, etc., etc., and raced to throw them on airplanes to the US, and the entire colossal stunt was called "Operation Peter Pan?"

By the way, the children "left behind" in Cuba were NOT put in camps or sent to "Soviet Russia." Surprise!

Spend some time finding out about the subject first, then talk about the event from an informed foundation.

Excerpt from:
The Bay of Pigs and the CIA
By Juan Carlos Rodríguez

Page 55 | Legal Custody of Children

Operation Peter Pan began to take shape in Washington in mid-1960. (It was called that because Peter Pan had taken the three darling children away to Never-Never Land.) The name was sadly ironic: for many of those children who were sent out of Cuba, the United States would be a land from which they would never, never return home. The operation formed part of the arsenal used to psychologically soften up the Cuban people. With it, the Propaganda Section in Quarters Eye decided to unleash a propaganda campaign to make ordinary Cubans believe that, under a communist government, children - like the land, industries, stores and housing - would become the property of the state. If that happened, parents would lose legal custody of their children.

The CIA experts were confident that, if they managed to sow that doubt in some of the people, the fear would gather momentum and could lead to the exodus of thousands of children, split up families and thus undermine the families' support of the government. Undoubtedly, it would be a most effective destabilizing measure.

The first phase of the operation consisted of having the radio station carry a "news" bulletin that would alarm the people and be spread by word of mouth. Therefore, one October night in 1960, Radio Swan made its first reference to this subject in its 8:00 news broadcast:
"Cuban mothers, don't let them take your children away! The Revolutionary Government will take them away from you when they turn five and will keep them until they are 18. By that time, they will be materialist monsters."


During the following months, over and over again, the station would rebroadcast that false "news item" about children being taken away from their parents. In December 1960, the CIA experts felt that the idea had taken root on the island and decided to go on to the next phase, which would split Cuban families and finally cause some of them to oppose the government. That would guarantee solid support for the invaders. Under apparently legal cover, using the services of the Catholic Church, the children's exodus began. Operation Peter Pan was carried out under a religious cloak as "humanitarian assistance" provided by the Catholic Services Bureau in Florida. Its main protagonist, who allowed himself to be used as a figurehead, was Monsignor Bryan O. Walsh.

More:
http://www.historyofcuba.com/history/pedro.htm


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December 16, 2011
The CIA, Cuba and Operation Peter Pan

by Nelson P. Valdes - Saul Landau

On November 19, 2011 NPR broadcast “Children Of Cuba Remember: Their Flight To America.” Reporter Greg Allen claimed the 1960-62 journey from Cuba to the United States of 14,000 plus Cuban children “was made possible because of a deal a priest in the Miami diocese (Father Bryan Walsh) … worked out with the US State Department. The agreement allowed him to sign visa waivers for children 16 or under.” Allen then interviewed several right-of-center Cuban Americans to offer “objective” perspective on the facts surrounding Operation Peter Pan.

Curiously, Allen omitted the CIA from his report, although ample evidence shows the Agency in the early 1960s conspired with the Church to spirit kids out of Cuba.

Once inside the nurturing borders of the greatest country in the world “Pedro Pan kids have done well,” Allen concluded, without explaining what “well” means. Now adult Pedro Pan kids remain “firmly opposed to any normalization of relations with the Castro regime, the regime that was responsible for breaking up their families and forcing them from their homeland.”

NPR staff might have discovered a more complex and sinister story – had they looked. The CIA refuses to release Peter Pan documents, but abundant testimony shows the Agency forging documents and spreading lies, with Father Walsh and the regional Catholic hierarchy. Their goal: separate elite children from parents (a Cuban brain drain) and generate political instability.

More:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/12/16/the-cia-cuba-and-operation-peter-pan/


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I loved Fidel [View all] malaise Nov 2016 OP
Those who care about Human Rights despised him Riftaxe Nov 2016 #1
I'm trying not to laugh malaise Nov 2016 #2
So did the non-racist, non-oligarchal Cubans. Judi Lynn Nov 2016 #11
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! malaise Nov 2016 #12
as long as they weren't gay dsc Nov 2016 #102
This. nt Laffy Kat Nov 2016 #109
"I loved Fidel - that simple." Love is irrational. You have placed yourself outside of reason. Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #34
You're wrong malaise Nov 2016 #38
But that is different, Malaise. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #104
Read malaise Nov 2016 #110
And remember that all the world is considered a US area of vital interest. eom guillaumeb Nov 2016 #112
favouring one evil over another is fucked up Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #3
Cuba has the best educated and healthiest population in our hemisphere malaise Nov 2016 #4
ludicrous Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #6
Thank you Dem2 Nov 2016 #95
BFD, they can't do anything with that education. They can hardly EAT. They cannot own their own secondwind Nov 2016 #8
"Owning a business" has nothing to do with freedom. ronnie624 Nov 2016 #71
Well said malaise Nov 2016 #98
israel has a good education system also JI7 Nov 2016 #64
True n/t malaise Nov 2016 #68
As long as the student is..................? guillaumeb Nov 2016 #105
Not a... malaise Nov 2016 #111
True, not a .........eom guillaumeb Nov 2016 #113
1 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2016 #117
Post removed Post removed Nov 2016 #5
His people would disagree with you, malaise. Big time.. He separated families, ripped children from secondwind Nov 2016 #7
Are you unware it was the CIA who created that rumor which got the middle & upper class parents, Judi Lynn Nov 2016 #18
... 2naSalit Nov 2016 #69
Excellent information flamingdem Nov 2016 #89
Brava! pangaia Nov 2016 #107
Right on! burrowowl Nov 2016 #125
Only kings and dictators rule for 60 years hack89 Nov 2016 #9
Here's some objectivity: he is worth just short of A BILLION. while his country starved... secondwind Nov 2016 #10
Mitch McConnell is worth millions and some people in the mountains of mfcorey1 Nov 2016 #24
And you love McConnell for it? NCTraveler Nov 2016 #33
I don't know how you came to that conclusion. My point is that mfcorey1 Nov 2016 #53
But they are "free" to starve. eom guillaumeb Nov 2016 #106
Someone already tried to plant that "wisdom" from Forbes years ago, and it wasn't true then, either. Judi Lynn Nov 2016 #27
I don't know much about Castro... tecelote Nov 2016 #13
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! malaise Nov 2016 #16
My dear Malaise, while healthcare is available to all, it is not that simple.. In Cuba, secondwind Nov 2016 #14
Say, do you have a link to a truthful source about that tragic sob-fest breakdown at a mall? Judi Lynn Nov 2016 #28
ROFL malaise Nov 2016 #85
I agree Sunsky Nov 2016 #15
Good post malaise Nov 2016 #20
Sounds good.. whathehell Nov 2016 #77
OK this denbot Nov 2016 #130
Castro was a lot better than what he replaced. Bad Dog Nov 2016 #17
The Guardian had a recent report on Churchill's coup in then malaise Nov 2016 #21
It is simple. MyNameGoesHere Nov 2016 #19
Yes indeed malaise Nov 2016 #22
The US Navy used to use Cuba as a Rest and Relaxation port. Really whooped it up for a while! Judi Lynn Nov 2016 #29
Thanks for this.. whathehell Nov 2016 #82
He was an authoritarian dictator with little respect for human rights Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2016 #23
Sounds like what Donald Drumpf and the blameless media have mfcorey1 Nov 2016 #25
His greatest crime was overthrowing Batista HerrKarlMarx Nov 2016 #26
2 wrongs do not make a right Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #30
A wiser president would have at least tried to co opt him. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2016 #51
Our CIA supplied weapons to Castro... kentuck Nov 2016 #31
Also enabled Posada and his buddy burrowowl Nov 2016 #126
Couldn't sleep, so listened to NPR, VERY early Equinox Moon Nov 2016 #32
Yeah healthcare, education, social programs etc etc Elmergantry Nov 2016 #35
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh malaise Nov 2016 #37
It was an odd comment from "Elmergantry" to my comment Equinox Moon Nov 2016 #41
Precisely malaise Nov 2016 #44
His second GREATEST CRIME HAB911 Nov 2016 #36
ROFL malaise Nov 2016 #39
These almost-rightwingers are pissed HAB911 Nov 2016 #40
Freedom of expression and assembly? oberliner Nov 2016 #42
They (cuban runners) have ruined our country HAB911 Nov 2016 #43
Not the Palestinians malaise Nov 2016 #46
Castro's treatment of the Cuban people was similar to the Israeli treatment of Palestinians oberliner Nov 2016 #47
Huh? malaise Nov 2016 #49
You seemed to be making a comparison to the Palestinians oberliner Nov 2016 #50
United Fruit Company OneBlueDotBama Nov 2016 #65
Hehehehehhe malaise Nov 2016 #66
When I was there, the locals' opinions were divided DFW Nov 2016 #45
He hated America, that's all it should take for us to love him. ileus Nov 2016 #48
Who hated first? He ran United Fruit and the mafia out of Cuba. United Fruit was Dulles's baby. Zen Democrat Nov 2016 #55
I hope he rots on hell, frankly... Adrahil Nov 2016 #52
what cenobites do you think he will Choose to be? stonecutter357 Nov 2016 #54
I have to admit, Malaise, the news of his death actually makes me kind of sad Siwsan Nov 2016 #56
Nice post malaise Nov 2016 #59
The CBC and BBC have become my new 'go to' news sources Siwsan Nov 2016 #60
Same here malaise Nov 2016 #63
His thousands of victims are comforted by your love of a brutal fascist. Statistical Nov 2016 #57
Love/Hate - both are simplistic cabot Nov 2016 #58
Diego Maradona on Fidel malaise Nov 2016 #62
K and r. cwydro Nov 2016 #61
Folks in Cuba today malaise Nov 2016 #116
I grew up in a dictatorship. Good riddance to him. brooklynite Nov 2016 #67
Which dictatorship was that? whathehell Nov 2016 #84
Philippines in the 1970s brooklynite Nov 2016 #108
Oh yes. whathehell Nov 2016 #118
Curfew, press censorship, travel bans, suspended civil rights... brooklynite Nov 2016 #123
My family fled Mao's China. Dead communists are always cause for celebration. name not needed Nov 2016 #70
I hated that he treated people the same way we do. tenderfoot Nov 2016 #72
For better or worse, he was a larger than life historical figure. roamer65 Nov 2016 #73
I wish I had your rose colored glasses nini Nov 2016 #74
Others have stood up to the global bully sarisataka Nov 2016 #75
1000 heaven05 Nov 2016 #76
Were any of those people free to leave? Dreamer Tatum Nov 2016 #78
K&R Uponthegears Nov 2016 #79
PS: Castro won Arazi Nov 2016 #80
I agree. The US finally let up flamingdem Nov 2016 #90
We are continually cilla4progress Nov 2016 #81
How the Cuban people feel malaise Nov 2016 #92
Here's the photo from that article for you... countryjake Nov 2016 #96
Speaks volumes in the face of ugly malaise Nov 2016 #97
You've phrased that perfectly! countryjake Nov 2016 #99
LOL malaise Nov 2016 #101
Ahem.... Adrahil Nov 2016 #83
During the Cuban missile crisis rusty fender Nov 2016 #86
Urged? The US nuked malaise Nov 2016 #87
pearl harbor WWII JI7 Nov 2016 #100
Thank you Malaise for risking that opinion on DU today! flamingdem Nov 2016 #88
It was easy - I too am a neighbor malaise Nov 2016 #91
It's a pleasure to find your post here, malaise! countryjake Nov 2016 #93
Love you back malaise Nov 2016 #94
Recommended. But he will also be judged for his position on human rights. eom guillaumeb Nov 2016 #103
True - here's Corbyn's tribute malaise Nov 2016 #114
Castro is burning in hell for all the people he exiled, imprisoned and killed LittleBlue Nov 2016 #115
I have to respectfully disagree. Castro was a dictator which goes against everything madinmaryland Nov 2016 #119
What a joke malaise Nov 2016 #120
Yeah... madinmaryland Nov 2016 #121
JEB did hand over Florida to his brother n/t malaise Nov 2016 #122
Actually no, we have these things called elections here in Fla EX500rider Nov 2016 #124
Then cleaarly you didn't follow the 2000 election n/t malaise Nov 2016 #128
I'm gonna rec this... SMC22307 Nov 2016 #127
Poor lil Marco - Justin Trudeau has him all upset malaise Nov 2016 #129
Freely expressing opinion melman Nov 2016 #131
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