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forthemiddle

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42. I didn't say I agree

Sat Nov 26, 2016, 09:57 AM

Nov 2016

But to second guess anyones reason for voting, and then to demonize them for it is never a good idea.

There is a reason that almost all campaign ads end with "I'm asking for your vote", or something like that, it's because it's been proven to work. When all you see is Trump coming to your area, and Hillary deciding she doesn't need to, that says something to people. One politician cared, one didn't.

I don't have numbers, but I know for a fact that Obama came to Wisconsin ALOT in 2008 and 2012. He won, she didn't. Coincidence? Maybe, but people do like to think that they are at least not an afterthought.

Also the "deplorable" comment did way more harm than good. Even if it was downgraded, and explained away here on DU. It was almost worn as a badge of honor in these parts. "HAHA, I guess I'm deplorable".

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Do We Disrespect Rural America? [View all] McCamy Taylor Nov 2016 OP

It's challenging to respect people who do not respect themselves. LonePirate Nov 2016 #1

They are in their own little bubble radical noodle Nov 2016 #4

I'm a rural American spedtr90 Nov 2016 #44

I think this is an excellent analysis!!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2016 #52

Thank you for sharing your experience. smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #53

This is the best summation I've seen anywhere. I wish you could publish this. yardwork Nov 2016 #63

Thanks spedtr90 Nov 2016 #69

Good questions. We have to figure out how to correct the disinformation. yardwork Nov 2016 #78

Rural resident here too 2naSalit Nov 2016 #79

Thank you DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #103

"radicalized by right wing media" tenderfoot Nov 2016 #109

I had 2 friends who were a truck driver and a traveling salesman hollowdweller Nov 2016 #110

I grew up in a rural area and I'm still connected to it. GreenEyedLefty Nov 2016 #100

No. Liberal In Texas Nov 2016 #2

i don't think they are dumb either that's why i think most voted for him over bigotry JI7 Nov 2016 #3

They're not necessarily dumb, but most are uninformed & lack education whathehell Nov 2016 #10

that's true of city and surburban types also. they might have more formal education but not much JI7 Nov 2016 #12

No ....... May want to rethink what you said .......... Kathy M Nov 2016 #18

I think religion has a lot to do with it. The refusal to look at things critically. smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #54

Do you mean ALL religion, or just Christianity and Islam? whathehell Nov 2016 #70

I think mostly fundamentalist religions. Not the more liberal denominations smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #73

Glad to hear that. whathehell Nov 2016 #74

Sorry, didn't mean to clump them all in together! The south and midwest are filled smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #75

No problem...I appreciate your whathehell Nov 2016 #77

Conservatisim is a religion. hollowdweller Nov 2016 #112

You have a good point. smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #115

They are dis-informed. GreenEyedLefty Nov 2016 #101

Good point.. whathehell Nov 2016 #102

... moondust Nov 2016 #15

Iowa has always had a strong evangelical side to it so i'm not too surprised by that . Wisconsin had JI7 Nov 2016 #16

Totally agree. They finally had a chance to strike back against POC, Muslims, LGTB, Latinos and Fla Dem Nov 2016 #117

I think we just don't have any easy answers for them. RandySF Nov 2016 #5

The republican party networks with these rural preachers rwheeler31 Nov 2016 #6

In that way conservatisim is like Islam hollowdweller Nov 2016 #113

To a degree yes Lotusflower70 Nov 2016 #7

Just look at how many times in this thread Duckhunter935 Nov 2016 #30

But we are less educated. dawg Nov 2016 #32

There are different types of education Duckhunter935 Nov 2016 #39

Yes. exboyfil Nov 2016 #45

See, that's just pandering. dawg Nov 2016 #48

And this may get attacked as well, but I also come from a rural area Maeve Nov 2016 #65

However a formal education teaches one to think critically and that is what they lack. smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #55

They are not educated in the respect of cultural aspects. Sorry but I too have lived in ebbie15644 Nov 2016 #107

Trump praised them for being uneducated and they cheered . Why the insult now?. lunasun Nov 2016 #50

Exactly Lotusflower70 Nov 2016 #76

Sorry, but the worst thing posted here Cosmocat Nov 2016 #61

There has always been city slicker/country hayseed tension in this country Warpy Nov 2016 #8

Yep. n/t susanna Nov 2016 #22

Think you nailed it Warpy. N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2016 #41

Respect is earned bhikkhu Nov 2016 #9

This thread is very much like murielm99 Nov 2016 #11

"They" You see a lot of that, and not just here. Regions do have... TreasonousBastard Nov 2016 #23

Had only millennials voted, Clinton would've won in a landslide. JonLP24 Nov 2016 #24

They've got it down to a system don't they? ucrdem Nov 2016 #13

it's a two way street Afromania Nov 2016 #14

in 2012 West Virginia Democratic Primary a Prison inmate got more than 40 percent of the vote JI7 Nov 2016 #17

hypocrites, the lot of em Afromania Nov 2016 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author Kathy M Nov 2016 #20

Post removed Post removed Nov 2016 #21

Sure they did. femmocrat Nov 2016 #25

American flags? dawg Nov 2016 #34

Read the book blue jean Nation...by Mike McCabe dembotoz Nov 2016 #26

I think Rural America has been victims of a steady diet of right-wing propaganda meow2u3 Nov 2016 #27

I've always wondered why this is only from the right. Maybe right wing stuff sells better. Many RKP5637 Nov 2016 #58

There is more ad revenue available from the right. Qutzupalotl Nov 2016 #106

And sadly so many people hear/watch it and think their BS is the absolute truth. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2016 #114

urban vs rural mindset forthemiddle Nov 2016 #28

So they punish themselves treestar Nov 2016 #36

I didn't say I agree forthemiddle Nov 2016 #42

Never insult the voters exboyfil Nov 2016 #51

if they immediately identified with being a deplorable then it seems most likely the townspeople lunasun Nov 2016 #43

Just keep talking down to them forthemiddle Nov 2016 #49

I don't think if I went In that area many people would talk to me period lunasun Nov 2016 #80

Honest question forthemiddle Nov 2016 #82

Yes lunasun Nov 2016 #83

Yet, not a single candidate has ever set foot in California taught_me_patience Nov 2016 #47

They wanted to take their country back........ Historic NY Nov 2016 #29

And yet liquid diamond Nov 2016 #86

We should punish these people every chance we get. ileus Nov 2016 #31

Punish them? RegexReader Nov 2016 #35

we refuse education dollars, road dollars...emergency assistance ect... ileus Nov 2016 #38

really? RegexReader Nov 2016 #67

I'm in that red part of Virginia, phylny Nov 2016 #89

I'm in butt end red of Virginia. ileus Nov 2016 #92

That sounds rather totalitarian. Abq_Sarah Nov 2016 #91

We know what's best for them, so try instead "authoritative guidance". ileus Nov 2016 #93

Is that enough? Fla_Democrat Nov 2016 #94

Maybe you're right, maybe they shouldn't be allowed to leave until the demonstrate ileus Nov 2016 #95

You could always stop eating the food produced by "rural America". Pathwalker Nov 2016 #116

What goes around comes around. Hangingon Nov 2016 #119

Post removed Post removed Nov 2016 #33

We do have less education. dawg Nov 2016 #37

I think you got the inteligence levels correct, but severally underestimate jmg257 Nov 2016 #40

When's the rural white trash going to stop disrespecting us? backscatter712 Nov 2016 #46

1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #59

Thank you liquid diamond Nov 2016 #87

I live in rural America randr Nov 2016 #56

I live in blood red Arkansas and I hate to tell you WhiteTara Nov 2016 #57

Yes, they are. roamer65 Nov 2016 #66

Sounds like Georgia, where I live. n/t Different Drummer Nov 2016 #85

Sorry the angry white vote rang the bell Cosmocat Nov 2016 #60

I have no respect for anyone who voted for a white supremacist La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #62

Me either. In fact before I do business with anyone around here WhiteTara Nov 2016 #68

I wouldn't say so much dumb as I would say ignorant. smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #64

Because if for no other reason the country can't be governed with political control of TheKentuckian Nov 2016 #90

Then maybe there is a reason we should secede. smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #96

No. Rural people are stuck in their ways and uninterested in changing. tenderfoot Nov 2016 #71

It's not disrespect sarisataka Nov 2016 #72

The truth isn't pretty get the red out Nov 2016 #81

ANYONE who voted for the maggot MFM008 Nov 2016 #84

Rural areas send the cities energy supplies, food, fiber, and construction materials FarCenter Nov 2016 #88

We don't so much disrespect them as ignore them. MineralMan Nov 2016 #97

In short NobodyHere Nov 2016 #98

Yes, but for their refusal to think. lindysalsagal Nov 2016 #99

Yes, we do. I have an example. GreenEyedLefty Nov 2016 #104

No, we do not. apcalc Nov 2016 #105

So they struck back by voting for Trump. Sorry, but that is dumb. I think they did vote Hoyt Nov 2016 #108

As I do with everyone else, I respect them as much as they respect me. Iggo Nov 2016 #111

Yes. LWolf Nov 2016 #118