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3. That is why I have so much respect for Daniel Ortega

Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:07 AM

Nov 2016

At the urging of Jimmy Carter who monitored the election Daniel Ortega, a Marxist who would become a democratic socialist, relinquished power when he was defeated by Violeta Chamorro.

In the fullness of time he became president.

I just can't get all excited lambasting Castro for being a tyrant when we just elected one. Let's hope he is constrained by the Constitution.

I will add Castro cared about his people, albeit he believed he and he alone knew what was best for them. Donald Trump only cares about Donald Trump.

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Without free and open elections a government leader is not legitimate. [View all] Skinner Nov 2016 OP

I hope he enjoys his time in hell! hrmjustin Nov 2016 #1

And if the people in an area don't have the right to freely emigrate from that area.... PoliticAverse Nov 2016 #2

That is why I have so much respect for Daniel Ortega DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2016 #3

Absolutely. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #9

Nuanced views are all too often in short supply, even at DU. bullwinkle428 Nov 2016 #25

Excellent post. nt awoke_in_2003 Nov 2016 #43

You are absolutely right! Punkingal Nov 2016 #4

They escaped for the reason some are saying we lost the election Ligyron Nov 2016 #10

I've known people who PatSeg Nov 2016 #15

"And, then I told him... jberryhill Nov 2016 #5

Here's something I just posted about Cuba's other revolutionaries ... who gave their lives ... eppur_se_muova Nov 2016 #6

Hopefully with him gone and his brother stepping down in 2018... roamer65 Nov 2016 #7

A tyrant who 'means well' is still a tyrant Maeve Nov 2016 #8

Benevolent dictators can be attractive. moondust Nov 2016 #11

These recounts won't legtimize bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #12

K&R mcar Nov 2016 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author johnp3907 Nov 2016 #14

Right On! kebob Nov 2016 #16

So let me pose this question DAngelo136 Nov 2016 #17

Batista was worse? That's your argument? LOL! MADem Nov 2016 #20

Well said n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #23

Do not assume for an election to be free and fair sarisataka Nov 2016 #26

Here we go with the "we aren't a democracy" BS awoke_in_2003 Nov 2016 #44

Most accurately we have sarisataka Nov 2016 #45

Good post n/t malaise Nov 2016 #34

our government now is legitimate heaven05 Nov 2016 #18

I know a lotta Cubanos. MADem Nov 2016 #19

I thought this would be about Trump. panader0 Nov 2016 #21

Thanks once again SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #22

k&r tammywammy Nov 2016 #24

They had free and fair elections in Chile Bad Dog Nov 2016 #27

"Elections" Uponthegears Nov 2016 #28

Ok then. Why didn't Castro let the Cuban people render their judgement on his rule? Skinner Nov 2016 #30

No doubt a legitimate question Uponthegears Nov 2016 #32

That argument, however, fails at a basic level. Adrahil Nov 2016 #36

"let us not forget" Uponthegears Nov 2016 #39

Given how difficult it was to escape mythology Nov 2016 #47

Well, I guess no more Uponthegears Nov 2016 #49

The US is responsible and should reflect on its own history and actions lostnfound Nov 2016 #29

Castro cannot be held responsible for his own actions because the United States is bad. Skinner Nov 2016 #31

I did not say that! lostnfound Nov 2016 #33

Don''t you know America is never wrong malaise Nov 2016 #35

We just went though an election cycle madokie Nov 2016 #37

You have every reason to worry for your grandchild malaise Nov 2016 #38

I agree with you 100% madokie Nov 2016 #40

Then here's a question I have. Exilednight Nov 2016 #41

Cuba only has one government so obviously that's the one that everyone else has to deal with. Skinner Nov 2016 #42

Pious hypocrites RandiFan1290 Nov 2016 #46

Free and open elections are necessary but not sufficient for legitimacy FarCenter Nov 2016 #48