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MADem

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19. I know a lotta Cubanos.
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 01:29 PM
Nov 2016

And they're not down with the government at all. They say, pretty much exactly, what you are saying.

Many of my Cuban friends came to USA as children, teens and young adults, with parents who sold up everything and ran like hell. Not poverty stricken, but not landed gentry, either. These were the kids of teachers and office workers and the odd nurse. Their parents came to the mainland and took jobs in factories or as janitors/maids, scrubbing floors because their qualifications didn't translate and they didn't have language skills. Some went to PR and did better because they didn't have a language barrier--in fact, a lot of really super "successful" puertorriqueños (the Bacardí family , e.g.) were born in Havana!

The people I know don't have the same attitude as the people who lost their huge fincas or had their big fancy buildings (or distilleries) in Havana nationalized, because they didn't leave behind massive amounts of property. Their parents have made new lives, and they've adopted USA as their home. They aren't rabid about getting their "stuff" back (because they didn't have very much in the first place that they didn't liquidate) but they also don't believe the present government represents the people in any way, shape or form. The lack of true electoral representation does resonate. And, of course, they find the poverty and deprivation to the point of hunger unacceptable.

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I hope he enjoys his time in hell! hrmjustin Nov 2016 #1
And if the people in an area don't have the right to freely emigrate from that area.... PoliticAverse Nov 2016 #2
That is why I have so much respect for Daniel Ortega DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2016 #3
Absolutely. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #9
Nuanced views are all too often in short supply, even at DU. bullwinkle428 Nov 2016 #25
Excellent post. nt awoke_in_2003 Nov 2016 #43
You are absolutely right! Punkingal Nov 2016 #4
They escaped for the reason some are saying we lost the election Ligyron Nov 2016 #10
I've known people who PatSeg Nov 2016 #15
"And, then I told him... jberryhill Nov 2016 #5
Here's something I just posted about Cuba's other revolutionaries ... who gave their lives ... eppur_se_muova Nov 2016 #6
Hopefully with him gone and his brother stepping down in 2018... roamer65 Nov 2016 #7
A tyrant who 'means well' is still a tyrant Maeve Nov 2016 #8
Benevolent dictators can be attractive. moondust Nov 2016 #11
These recounts won't legtimize bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #12
K&R mcar Nov 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author johnp3907 Nov 2016 #14
Right On! kebob Nov 2016 #16
So let me pose this question DAngelo136 Nov 2016 #17
Batista was worse? That's your argument? LOL! MADem Nov 2016 #20
Well said n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #23
Do not assume for an election to be free and fair sarisataka Nov 2016 #26
Here we go with the "we aren't a democracy" BS awoke_in_2003 Nov 2016 #44
Most accurately we have sarisataka Nov 2016 #45
Good post n/t malaise Nov 2016 #34
our government now is legitimate heaven05 Nov 2016 #18
I know a lotta Cubanos. MADem Nov 2016 #19
I thought this would be about Trump. panader0 Nov 2016 #21
Thanks once again SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #22
k&r tammywammy Nov 2016 #24
They had free and fair elections in Chile Bad Dog Nov 2016 #27
"Elections" Uponthegears Nov 2016 #28
Ok then. Why didn't Castro let the Cuban people render their judgement on his rule? Skinner Nov 2016 #30
No doubt a legitimate question Uponthegears Nov 2016 #32
That argument, however, fails at a basic level. Adrahil Nov 2016 #36
"let us not forget" Uponthegears Nov 2016 #39
Given how difficult it was to escape mythology Nov 2016 #47
Well, I guess no more Uponthegears Nov 2016 #49
The US is responsible and should reflect on its own history and actions lostnfound Nov 2016 #29
Castro cannot be held responsible for his own actions because the United States is bad. Skinner Nov 2016 #31
I did not say that! lostnfound Nov 2016 #33
Don''t you know America is never wrong malaise Nov 2016 #35
We just went though an election cycle madokie Nov 2016 #37
You have every reason to worry for your grandchild malaise Nov 2016 #38
I agree with you 100% madokie Nov 2016 #40
Then here's a question I have. Exilednight Nov 2016 #41
Cuba only has one government so obviously that's the one that everyone else has to deal with. Skinner Nov 2016 #42
Pious hypocrites RandiFan1290 Nov 2016 #46
Free and open elections are necessary but not sufficient for legitimacy FarCenter Nov 2016 #48
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