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Uponthegears

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32. No doubt a legitimate question

Sat Nov 26, 2016, 03:41 PM

Nov 2016

Obviously I can't speak to Castro's personal motivations, however one might suggest that democratic mechanisms have consistently failed to protect oppressed people, be they the poor or any other oppressed group.

Take, for example, LGBTQ rights. Left to the judgment of the majority, we would still be in the Dark Ages. Is there some reason to believe that the same would not hold true for the poor whom Castro championed?

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Without free and open elections a government leader is not legitimate. [View all] Skinner Nov 2016 OP

I hope he enjoys his time in hell! hrmjustin Nov 2016 #1

And if the people in an area don't have the right to freely emigrate from that area.... PoliticAverse Nov 2016 #2

That is why I have so much respect for Daniel Ortega DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2016 #3

Absolutely. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #9

Nuanced views are all too often in short supply, even at DU. bullwinkle428 Nov 2016 #25

Excellent post. nt awoke_in_2003 Nov 2016 #43

You are absolutely right! Punkingal Nov 2016 #4

They escaped for the reason some are saying we lost the election Ligyron Nov 2016 #10

I've known people who PatSeg Nov 2016 #15

"And, then I told him... jberryhill Nov 2016 #5

Here's something I just posted about Cuba's other revolutionaries ... who gave their lives ... eppur_se_muova Nov 2016 #6

Hopefully with him gone and his brother stepping down in 2018... roamer65 Nov 2016 #7

A tyrant who 'means well' is still a tyrant Maeve Nov 2016 #8

Benevolent dictators can be attractive. moondust Nov 2016 #11

These recounts won't legtimize bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #12

K&R mcar Nov 2016 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author johnp3907 Nov 2016 #14

Right On! kebob Nov 2016 #16

So let me pose this question DAngelo136 Nov 2016 #17

Batista was worse? That's your argument? LOL! MADem Nov 2016 #20

Well said n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #23

Do not assume for an election to be free and fair sarisataka Nov 2016 #26

Here we go with the "we aren't a democracy" BS awoke_in_2003 Nov 2016 #44

Most accurately we have sarisataka Nov 2016 #45

Good post n/t malaise Nov 2016 #34

our government now is legitimate heaven05 Nov 2016 #18

I know a lotta Cubanos. MADem Nov 2016 #19

I thought this would be about Trump. panader0 Nov 2016 #21

Thanks once again SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #22

k&r tammywammy Nov 2016 #24

They had free and fair elections in Chile Bad Dog Nov 2016 #27

"Elections" Uponthegears Nov 2016 #28

Ok then. Why didn't Castro let the Cuban people render their judgement on his rule? Skinner Nov 2016 #30

No doubt a legitimate question Uponthegears Nov 2016 #32

That argument, however, fails at a basic level. Adrahil Nov 2016 #36

"let us not forget" Uponthegears Nov 2016 #39

Given how difficult it was to escape mythology Nov 2016 #47

Well, I guess no more Uponthegears Nov 2016 #49

The US is responsible and should reflect on its own history and actions lostnfound Nov 2016 #29

Castro cannot be held responsible for his own actions because the United States is bad. Skinner Nov 2016 #31

I did not say that! lostnfound Nov 2016 #33

Don''t you know America is never wrong malaise Nov 2016 #35

We just went though an election cycle madokie Nov 2016 #37

You have every reason to worry for your grandchild malaise Nov 2016 #38

I agree with you 100% madokie Nov 2016 #40

Then here's a question I have. Exilednight Nov 2016 #41

Cuba only has one government so obviously that's the one that everyone else has to deal with. Skinner Nov 2016 #42

Pious hypocrites RandiFan1290 Nov 2016 #46

Free and open elections are necessary but not sufficient for legitimacy FarCenter Nov 2016 #48