HRC/Democrats Lost Due to WRONG Message

[quaker bill]

49. It can be very comforting

To determine that we lost because the other side is stupid. I have been at the meetings of long and failed campaigns to prevent wars, fix environmental issues, organize a third party, elect candidates, and more. They almost always feature a speaker who says "we lost because the other side is too stupid". These speakers are always warmly received.

While I appreciate your thoughts on the matter, this stuff will take us precisely nowhere. I can assure you this because I have been at now nearly countless meetings where this has been said and nothing has ever come of it.

I believe that the Country has more than its fair ration of racists, xenophobes, misogynists, homophobes, and more. I do not believe it has more of them now than it had in 2008. That said DJT was clearly better than average at getting them to vote.

This aside, I do not think it was just the message. It is clearly also the messenger. The hacked internal messages from the Podesta account clearly point out their own concerns about Sec. Clinton's lack of strength as a messenger before things even started.

Barack did not say things that were all that different from Sec. Clinton, but you are correct, people believed it. That is a distinction of messenger, not message.

We also have to understand that context is crucial. The messenger / message that was right in 2008 is not the same in 2012 or 2016. I think Hillary was a perfectly fine candidate, who would have made a reasonably good President, and who ran a reasonably good campaign. It was just the wrong election for it, context is crucial.