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NanceGreggs

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99. In addition to being ...

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 06:21 PM

Nov 2016

... an exceptional politician (and human being), Obama ran after the country had just survived eight disastrous years of Dubya. Voting for "change" then was a winning strategy that appealed to the majority of the citizenry.

We have just come off eight years of improvement in all sectors - unemployment is down, the stock market is up, etc.

Those who just voted for "change" again are about to get that change - I don't think they're going to like it.

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HRC/Democrats Lost Due to WRONG Message [View all] NanceGreggs Nov 2016 OP

Excellent post. apcalc Nov 2016 #1

That's some message!!! greytdemocrat Nov 2016 #2

it's a delusional message. as long as the left/progressives /dems ignore talk radio certainot Nov 2016 #84

Exactly, blind obedience to the same strategy that has lost ground steadily for 25 years BlueStreak Nov 2016 #120

Perfect ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #3

Not that difficult HassleCat Nov 2016 #4

And therein lies the problem. NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #10

Fantastic message, my dear Nance! CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2016 #5

The "we's" have to outnumber the "they's" for us to win oberliner Nov 2016 #6

Meh - Hillary is fine, we did nothing wrong, the country has Salem-FITS UTUSN Nov 2016 #7

Bernie would have won even though he lost, let's stop supporting civil rights, let's purge emulatorloo Nov 2016 #8

So, I'm *PURGED*!1 Oh, woe oh woe woe woah!1 n/t UTUSN Nov 2016 #68

... emulatorloo Nov 2016 #101

Just continuing the putting-words-in-the-mouth challenge!1 n/t UTUSN Nov 2016 #106

... emulatorloo Nov 2016 #107

Glad we're friendly!1 n/t UTUSN Nov 2016 #108

Me too and always! emulatorloo Nov 2016 #109

K&R sheshe2 Nov 2016 #9

KnR Hekate Nov 2016 #11

We lost because James Comey of the FBI tossed two letter bombs pnwmom Nov 2016 #12

THIS SunSeeker Nov 2016 #15

I agree that it was one of many factors ... NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #16

You're absolutely right about that, Nance. They were primed to respond pnwmom Nov 2016 #17

That certainly didn't help. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #27

1 uponit7771 Nov 2016 #35

An election against a reality TV host should never have been close enough to be decided by some Marr Nov 2016 #66

Thank you, Nance! What a fantastic piece of writing! Silver Gaia Nov 2016 #13

They can't be afraid of rapists, they elected one president! Initech Nov 2016 #14

We lost because of drivel like your post. Makes me sick to hear stuff like this. Just drivel. Red Oak Nov 2016 #18

And others simply didn't vote for the top of the ticket. potone Nov 2016 #23

That's what's bothering me about all these excuse-laden post mortems. Marr Nov 2016 #69

I disagree treestar Nov 2016 #55

I agree with this. GreenEyedLefty Nov 2016 #64

That's part of my point. NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #98

Look at the the votes for President Obama Red Oak Nov 2016 #116

Yep-- self-aggrandizing pablum. /nt Marr Nov 2016 #67

1 (well said too). nt chknltl Nov 2016 #75

Yep. Many of these "stupid," "gullible," and "ill-informed" voters chose Obama TWICE... SMC22307 Nov 2016 #91

I have examined it, JHan Nov 2016 #110

Democrats lost because jimmil Nov 2016 #19

It's not just about Bill & Hill. NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #26

Take yourself back to the primary arikara Nov 2016 #117

Ah, the old "Bernie would have won" meme. NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #119

But other Democrats have won. Obama walked into office with Republicans vowing that the only thing Exilednight Nov 2016 #122

To your point, my ex-wife's mother, a life-long DEMOCRAT, loved sayin' she would vote for Satan over Hillary! (She voted for Jill Stein.) InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #28

Clinton Fatigue played a role. I watched that PBS 'Frontline' special... SMC22307 Nov 2016 #93

Hillary won the freaking vote! edhopper Nov 2016 #20

Voting machines Bear Creek Nov 2016 #88

Don't disagree edhopper Nov 2016 #89

Hacked Bear Creek Nov 2016 #21

Agree colsohlibgal Nov 2016 #24

FFS. This election should not have been close enough for them to steal it. She was running against Chakab Nov 2016 #34

I agree Trump was the worst candidate in history. NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #118

X 1000! mntleo2 Nov 2016 #57

Post removed Post removed Nov 2016 #70

Seriously? Okay, take South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas... George II Nov 2016 #80

Right? mcar Nov 2016 #85

Hillary won the popular vote by over 2 million so far and Trump does NOT have a mandate riversedge Nov 2016 #82

Trump doesn't need a mandate EL34x4 Nov 2016 #83

We Democrats can use the popular vote to remind Republicans that Hillary riversedge Nov 2016 #86

Yay! We won a game nobody was playing! EL34x4 Nov 2016 #97

You got to be kidding Gothmog Nov 2016 #92

You did it again, great job!! George II Nov 2016 #22

Nah, the GOP will find a way to blame it on the Dems before the Dems point out it was the GOP SharonAnn Nov 2016 #29

There are people all over the country ... NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #31

Not all Trump supporters are uninformed, ignorant, inferior bigots democrank Nov 2016 #25

This isn't about ... NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #30

echo chamber much? wundermaus Nov 2016 #32

Trump supporters ... NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #33

Excellent! betsuni Nov 2016 #36

Maybe...reminds me of the shopping list of a disgruntled spouse at a marriage counseling... pipoman Nov 2016 #37

We lost ... NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #39

No, not all evidence to the contrary pipoman Nov 2016 #50

This. Eleanors38 Nov 2016 #78

A carnival barking man-child beat *the most qualified candidate for President ever*... SMC22307 Nov 2016 #94

I believe the Democratic party failed so badly because it nominated the wrong CANDIDATE.... mike_c Nov 2016 #38

Yadda yadda yadda. NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #40

keep shoving your head in the sand.... mike_c Nov 2016 #41

True. Bernie didn't lose the GE. NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #42

It could have been another candidate with strong message Kathy M Nov 2016 #44

Er, Sanders didn't even win the D primaries. He lost by millions of votes stopbush Nov 2016 #56

Because he would have relentlessly hit Trump where it hurt. SMC22307 Nov 2016 #95

Reconsider the "Sanders woulda won" myth. He would have been slaughtered. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #102

1000. Paladin Nov 2016 #103

People who picked a loser don't get to pontificate on making wise choices, sorry. Marr Nov 2016 #105

I'll pontificate all I want, thank you very much. Paladin Nov 2016 #111

Shirking the blame only assures we'll repeat this mess. Marr Nov 2016 #112

"He didn't lose the GE" mcar Nov 2016 #62

1 ..... Agree Kathy M Nov 2016 #43

You might want to read this Eichenwald piece moonscape Nov 2016 #45

Neither Clinton nor Sanders were the right candidate in hindsight. randome Nov 2016 #48

Great post melman Nov 2016 #51

1 leftstreet Nov 2016 #61

Wish I could up-vote this. Marr Nov 2016 #71

Sanders was never vetted. Trump and his people would have destroyed Bernie and Bernie beaglelover Nov 2016 #72

yes clu Nov 2016 #100

And how many here PRAYED that Trump would be the opponent? A LOT 7962 Nov 2016 #115

The great dumbing down The Wizard Nov 2016 #46

Nice! Vinnie From Indy Nov 2016 #53

K&R brer cat Nov 2016 #47

It can be very comforting quaker bill Nov 2016 #49

I share your frustration. Let us revisit a woman scorned in the recent past. I, in no way, Trust Buster Nov 2016 #52

Another great post by Nance Gothmog Nov 2016 #54

One problem. We accuse them of voting against their own interests, but so do we. brewens Nov 2016 #58

Right on the money Shoonra Nov 2016 #59

I stand with Democrats mcar Nov 2016 #60

I totally Agree, I stand with PROGRESSIVE democrats! n/t sylvanus Nov 2016 #63

No, sorry. Marr Nov 2016 #65

1 (nuff said) chknltl Nov 2016 #74

And yet enough did in 2008 and 2012. aikoaiko Nov 2016 #73

In addition to being ... NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #99

Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2016 #76

Democrats failed to push their core values, or uphold them. backscatter712 Nov 2016 #77

What a great post superpatriotman Nov 2016 #79

Fully disagree chknltl Nov 2016 #81

Well said, Nance, as usual.. huge K&R secondwind Nov 2016 #87

America is Greater than It's Ever Been! was the WRONG message Dems to Win Nov 2016 #90

"half the people in the U.S. can't meet an unexpected 400 expense" SMC22307 Nov 2016 #96

"American politics is now a war of the intelligent v the stupid" is the wrong message. rug Nov 2016 #104

k n r! flamingdem Nov 2016 #113

When I hear "Repeal Obamacare" dickthegrouch Nov 2016 #114

I agree 200% DonCoquixote Nov 2016 #121